200 TDi Defender - what battery?
200 TDi Defender - what battery?
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eltax91

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10,674 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Hi all. After a bit of diagnostic work on a thread in GG, I'm convinced the battery on my 90 is dead. The current one is a Varta unit, with 610 ffs and 70Ah rating. So, like for like, or beefier? There is plenty of room under there it seems.

Only thing is, the outgoing battery doesn't have round terminals, it has 'flat' ones to attach the wires to. Is there a specific name to identify this terminal type? Or do a buy a modern round terminal One and source some adapters?

Chris x

279 posts

212 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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I have a Halfords 800amp battery in my Defender under the passanger seat. Does the job nicely.

See if you can find someone with a trade card, makes the batteries so much cheaper!

Dont think they actually rate them at 800amp now though, think its 700 or 750.

eltax91

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10,674 posts

230 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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I have a trade card. Always sort of assumed halfords own brand to be poor quality...

West4x4

672 posts

196 months

Sunday 5th February 2012
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Get down your local tractor suppliers much much cheaper, just go for the biggest one that will fit

R12HCO

826 posts

183 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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1000 amp. Starts instantly in the cold/snow white mornings. All the land rover folk rave about them.....Yet i cant think of the name....Numax IRRC

eltax91

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10,674 posts

230 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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R12HCO said:
1000 amp. Starts instantly in the cold/snow white mornings. All the land rover folk rave about them.....Yet i cant think of the name....Numax IRRC
Something like this? http://www.griffinbatterycentres.co.uk/cgi-bin/sit...

Liszt

4,334 posts

294 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Indeed. Use one as my second battery on my disco and it will power the winch and start the car when needed as well. When the main battery dies it will be replaced by another of these.

They are marketed as a cross between a starting battery and a lesuire battery. I.e. can supply big current to start the engine but can cope with multiple charges and discharges as when used with a winch or powering a fridge on a camping trip.

For £80 its a lot of battery.

eltax91

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Monday 6th February 2012
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Liszt said:
Indeed. Use one as my second battery on my disco and it will power the winch and start the car when needed as well. When the main battery dies it will be replaced by another of these.

They are marketed as a cross between a starting battery and a lesuire battery. I.e. can supply big current to start the engine but can cope with multiple charges and discharges as when used with a winch or powering a fridge on a camping trip.

For £80 its a lot of battery.
Cool. Any ideas on another supplier? I just called those guys, and they said if I used it to start a vehicle, rather than for leisure purposes, they would not accept it back under any kind of warranty!

Liszt

4,334 posts

294 months

Monday 6th February 2012
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Got mine from X-Eng at Billing Show and he knows that they are used for starting too. Even sells a dual battery and a split charger as package.

eltax91

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Monday 6th February 2012
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Liszt said:
Got mine from X-Eng at Billing Show and he knows that they are used for starting too. Even sells a dual battery and a split charger as package.
Cheers, his website is listing as out of stock sadly. I had thought of split charging, but the re-wiring bit scares me. At the moment, my wiring is difficult, as the Defender has the battery, a Main isolator, a separate winch isolator, and anderson plug and the winch. I have one positive going out and negatives returning. I'm assuming one of which is coming directly from the winch, to avoid wiring it to the chassis!

Not sure I can figure out the mess enough to be able to wire in a second battery!!

Liszt

4,334 posts

294 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Not that difficult.
Move the winch wires to second battery.
Link battery earths.
Heavy duty wire from main battery to split charge relay.
Heavy duty wire split charge to second battery.
earth wire to one side of split charge coil.
+12v from what ever you want to trigger the split charge to the otherside of the coil on the split charge relay. Can either use a feed off the alternator or switched ignition.

I also ran a diode protected feed to from second battery via a switch to the split charge so that I can jump start myself with a push of the button.

Dead easy to do in a Defender battery box. Was a nightmare in my 300 Auto disco with a snorkel. Had to move and reshape the airbox, reroute the snorkel, route wires across the radiator.


eltax91

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10,674 posts

230 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Liszt said:
Not that difficult.
Move the winch wires to second battery.
Link battery earths.
Heavy duty wire from main battery to split charge relay.
Heavy duty wire split charge to second battery.
earth wire to one side of split charge coil.
+12v from what ever you want to trigger the split charge to the otherside of the coil on the split charge relay. Can either use a feed off the alternator or switched ignition.

I also ran a diode protected feed to from second battery via a switch to the split charge so that I can jump start myself with a push of the button.

Dead easy to do in a Defender battery box. Was a nightmare in my 300 Auto disco with a snorkel. Had to move and reshape the airbox, reroute the snorkel, route wires across the radiator.
Sounds so easy! Don't suppose you are anywhere near Leicester and fancy earning some beer money!!

To be fair, I emailed the previous owner of my truck last night and he said he already wired the split charge unit in, so, when I get home from working away, I'm going to have a gander at what I have wired up already and work out how easy it will be to add a second battery!!

Liszt

4,334 posts

294 months

Tuesday 7th February 2012
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Sorry, Newport Pagnell.

Post some pictures up of what you find.

With two batteries I never have to wait for the glow plugs to warm up. Starts on the button even in cold weather.