What makes RR's so good?

[burwoodman]

Serious question. I'm taking he view most of you guys do not need he 99th percentile in offroad ability. What do RR's do on the road that other marques don't? Is it the S class of off roaders? When I last dove one I found it rolled a lot. Is it ride position or perceived brand cache?

[camel_landy]

They don't roll any more...

Why not take one for a test drive and find out for yourself??

M

[camel_landy]

burwoodman said:

I'm taking he view most of you guys do not need he 99th percentile in offroad ability.

Also, what do you define as "offroad ability"??

One of the hardest surfaces to drive on is short wet grass... Range Rovers quite often get used for towing, especially horse boxes. Now where are you likely to get wet grass.

Without really trying, you end up using the RR 4x4 abilities. OK, it's not the stereotypical "We're gripped, we're sorted' type off-roading but it's still tricky going, especially considering you've got 3ton of horse & trailer on the back!!

M

[burwoodman]

Thanks camel L- as I thought-most ive seen in Surrey are towing horses. A good horse car. I can see that. I knew it was a stupid question. Cheers

[dubbs]

It's also the practicality with luxury mix. I can't think of another vehicle that can give me the luxury of my HSE D3 with 7 adult-sized seats when required and a huge boot for camping gear/surfing and beach stuff/baby stuff/tip-run... the split rear really helps too when powerwashing the kit and kids feet - just awesome.... even the extended suspension for squeezing in to that last Cornwall beach parking spot everyone else has avoided due to ground clearance or sand to get stuck in.

The only car I would replace it with is the new FFRR or a D5.... hoping I keep it long enough to not take a D4 whilst the preferred choices are getting to a price I can afford!! :-)

[dubbs]

P.S all of the above applied to my FFRR when I had it..... minus the 7 seater bits!! ;-)

[anonymous-user]

They used to call it the best 4x4xfar. It still is. There aren't many cars that are unique, the FFRR is, it simply has no peers.

[burriana]

And I still want one of those rear window stickers for mine

[pjdow]

Unbeatable reliability

[bakerstreet]

pjdow said:

Unbeatable reliability

I'm sorry, but no.

However, despite this they are great looking vehicles with with S-Class levels of luxuryness and they are still pretty much the best 4x4s out there. I drove a Vogue and Sport recently and I was stunned by its ability for the ECU to brake all the wheels individually and the autmatic difflocking ect ect. This was on a steep-ish decent.

A series Landy could do the same decent, but it would be a lot more uncomfortable and not as controlled.

[TimJMS]

Could it be their

pjdow said:

Unbeatable reliability

http://usnews.rankingsandreviews.com/cars-trucks/L... + every reliability survey ever conducted.

Having said that, I'm keeping an open mind. Tata could work wonders, where BL, Rover, BMW and Ford all abjectly failed.

[taaffy]

Can only speak from experience of our 2010 vogue TDV8 which is our first Range Rover.

So far from new we have now covered 24000 mls and have encountered no problems whatsoever.

A friend has a 2011 sport and he has covered about 30k miles and had no problems so maybe they have addressed some of the previous gremlins.

[tomw2000]

taaffy said:

Can only speak from experience of our 2010 vogue TDV8 which is our first Range Rover.

So far from new we have now covered 24000 mls and have encountered no problems whatsoever.

A friend has a 2011 sport and he has covered about 30k miles and had no problems so maybe they have addressed some of the previous gremlins.

Had a 2009/59 TDV8 RRS from new - no issues - other than a cracked door handle (I reckon due to cold) and this was replaced FOC. Did just over 50k miles in two years.

Currently on a FFRR 4.4 TDV8. Had from new since feb 2011. Had small 'battery niggles'. Battery never actually went flat and is now sorted under warranty. Had a slight 'stutter/judder' at *ahem* motorway speeds. Now also sorted under warranty. I love this vehicle. If I had unlimited funds and I were only allowed one vehicle it would be this.
Chances are I will keep it and not upgrade to the recently revealed new one.

[poah]

burwoodman said:

Serious question. I'm taking he view most of you guys do not need he 99th percentile in offroad ability. What do RR's do on the road that other marques don't? Is it the S class of off roaders? When I last dove one I found it rolled a lot. Is it ride position or perceived brand cache?

as a car its pretty awful IMHO - too heavy, too tall, bad reliablity, not great to drive on the road. its a percived status symbol for the majority of people. They are however very good for towing wither thats a horsebox, a boat or a caravan and you get to do it with a bit of comfort. only reason my dad has an LR3 is to tow his carlight commander caravan.

[Trommel]

Have you ever even driven a Range Rover?

[Manks]

poah said:

burwoodman said:

Serious question. I'm taking he view most of you guys do not need he 99th percentile in offroad ability. What do RR's do on the road that other marques don't? Is it the S class of off roaders? When I last dove one I found it rolled a lot. Is it ride position or perceived brand cache?

as a car its pretty awful IMHO - too heavy, too tall, bad reliablity, not great to drive on the road. its a percived status symbol for the majority of people. They are however very good for towing wither thats a horsebox, a boat or a caravan and you get to do it with a bit of comfort. only reason my dad has an LR3 is to tow his carlight commander caravan.

Most of which is nonsense of course.

I am no fan of Land Rover as a company, but my TDV8 Range Rover is one of the best cars I have owned. It came as standard with a great deal of stuff that other marques charge extra for, it is a superb drive on the road and supremely capable off it. Just recently our village was cut off and I had the choice of a 30 minute detour or heading up the side of the valley along the side of a rutted, muddy and fairly steep hill. I selected Mud and Ruts mode, low ratio, command shift and off I went. Once on the road I was cruising at motorway speeds in complete comfort.

[taaffy]

poah said:

burwoodman said:

Serious question. I'm taking he view most of you guys do not need he 99th percentile in offroad ability. What do RR's do on the road that other marques don't? Is it the S class of off roaders? When I last dove one I found it rolled a lot. Is it ride position or perceived brand cache?

as a car its pretty awful IMHO - only reason my dad has an LR3 is to tow his carlight commander caravan.

Maybe if your dad gave up camping he could have a "proper" car that is reliable, not too heavy , handles well, blends in with the masses and is nice and lithe...

The man asked for sensible comments.. not opinions based on no factual experience.

Edited by taaffy on Tuesday 21st August 15:11

[dubbs]

poah said:

as a car its pretty awful IMHO - too heavy, too tall, bad reliablity, not great to drive on the road. its a percived status symbol for the majority of people. They are however very good for towing wither thats a horsebox, a boat or a caravan and you get to do it with a bit of comfort. only reason my dad has an LR3 is to tow his carlight commander caravan.

Bloody twit

It is too heavy, granted. However, reliability isn't that bad at all, they drive very well on the road and they're far from being "too tall" unless you have an 18" inside leg and are struggling to hop up in to it without your stepladder.

If you are the sort of person that needs to realise huge practicality with luxury levels of comfort then you "get it"... if you're a wet behind the ears student (just as an example of one particular demographic) who has needs for two seater fun and still has to prove the hairs on his chest then you don't.

:-)

Your Dad could have pulled his caravan with a Mondeo, Jag XF, BMW 5 series...etc., why the Discovery/LR3?

[anwbarwick]

poah said:

as a car its pretty awful IMHO - too heavy, too tall, bad reliablity, not great to drive on the road. its a percived status symbol for the majority of people. They are however very good for towing wither thats a horsebox, a boat or a caravan and you get to do it with a bit of comfort. only reason my dad has an LR3 is to tow his carlight commander caravan.

Too heavy, too tall... you'd need to quantify the issue there IMHO. They are what they are and that includes heavy and tall as part of the package ? Bad reliability... getting much better but you buy with your eyes open. Not great to drive on the road... maybe if it's used for daddies "shed dragging" but as both a daily commute, a long hauler, a bad weather and off road driver I wouldn't replace mine. Is it a status symbol... hell, yeah... but no more than half the other cars debated on this forum.

[hi court]

Some rubbish written in this thread, the best 4x4xfar no questions asked! When compared to rivels nothing comes close, I've occasionlly strayed to jap 4x4's but the rr does everything better. Its only downfall is reliability, I've done 600 miles so far this week in mine and only broken down twice!! But still love it!

Oh and what makes it so good? I reckon the owners, we're all happy to except it'll break down, happy its not great on fuel and aren't too fussed when stuff goes wrong but we're all prepared to put up with it because its a capable practical british engineered & built car that still looks great no matter what age rr you have!

Edited by hi court on Wednesday 22 August 21:25