Defender 90 Pricing - anyone in the know?

[Gazzab]

Casually looking at 90 prices. Am drawn towards a newer (puma?) car. They don't however seem much more expensive than say a yr 2000 old 6/7 seater 90.
Are the older models holding their money or do they all have low depreciation once they get to a certain age/price point?
I still wish I'd bought the series 2 v8 from mclaren cars that I turned down 7 years ago..!

[tomw2000]

This is a guess: maybe some people prefer the previous TD5 engines and that is keeping prices on those vehilces higher?

Someone with better knowledge will be along shortly

[camel_landy]

Residual values on 90s have always been very strong... Station Wagons & Hard Tops hold their values the best.

/RANT ON

The problem you find with values on 90s is that owners think that just by nailing a load of 'Bling' and sticking a 2" lift on their car immediately bumps up the value.

Then don't forget the 'Service History'... "I do it myself coz I do a better job than the main dealer"

...Then there are the 'Modifications' to make the car 'better'. (So they can do a better job than Land Rover's entire R&D department!!)

Frankly, if you're buying 2nd hand, you might as well buy from a dealer. The price will be much the same & that way you know you're going to get a more genuine vehicle which hasn't been molested.

/RANT OFF

M

[camel_landy]

Oh and FWIW - If it was me, I'd probably be looking at a late TD5 or early TDCi.

M

[heightswitch]

Gazzab said:

Casually looking at 90 prices. Am drawn towards a newer (puma?) car. They don't however seem much more expensive than say a yr 2000 old 6/7 seater 90.
Are the older models holding their money or do they all have low depreciation once they get to a certain age/price point?
I still wish I'd bought the series 2 v8 from mclaren cars that I turned down 7 years ago..!

They are all as crap as each other in general.
they will rust, you need to keep ontop of touching up paintwork to chassis..

my view after owning a Puma 110 xs for 3 years is that don't think that the newer model is any better. It has a tranny van engine, chocolate gearbox, inferior chassis treatment and cheap placcy parts throughout. Mine needed all the usual painting to all the usual areas.

If I had some sort of brain seizure and was going to buy another one I think that rather than going for the puma route I would look for a fully re-built on galv chassis 300tdi model angd buy the best restored one I could find at a fraction of the cost of a rusting chocolate gearboxed newer model...

And why anyone would think that buying from a dealer is any less fraught with risk than getting a well looked after private one I don't know...

they are charming vehicles..My 110 XS was really just too new to treat like a landrover should be treated..IE as a utility workhorse good for working, towing and carrying heavy stuff off road. as a leisure 4x4 for being comfortable in they are hopeless.

N.

You have a TVR so should have some semblance of mechanical nowledge..it isn't rocket science

[anonymous-user]

camel_landy said:

Then don't forget the 'Service History'... "I do it myself coz I do a better job than the main dealer"

...Then there are the 'Modifications' to make the car 'better'. (So they can do a better job than Land Rover's entire R&D department!!)

Errrr, well both those points are sort of true. The servicing bit certainly, as Landies need a bit of tech knowedge and not iPad diagnostics.
And modifications can make a standard Defender "better", depending what they are and what it's being used for.
Defender is a good, blank canvas that can be painted a variety of colours to suit. Mine's got massively improved interior storage, because I use it for a bit of overlanding now and then. Better than Land Rover came up with, but equally useless to someone wanting a good tow car as it's just dead weight.

[anonymous-user]

heightswitch said:

They are all as crap as each other in general...........as a leisure 4x4 for being comfortable in they are hopeless.

I bought mine to enable interplanetary travel. Equally hopeless, but then again they're not meant for that either.
Try an X5 next time?

[cpas]

tomw2000 said:

This is a guess: maybe some people prefer the previous TD5 engines and that is keeping prices on those vehilces higher?

Someone with better knowledge will be along shortly

...and some people prefer the 200 or 300TDi to the TD5 etc, and there is also the road tax issue after 2001 and 2006 which puts some people off. The second hand pricing does seem to be a complete lottery though!!