Range Rover Sport - off road on 19" wheels?
Discussion
Folks
I've just invested rather more money than I had intended in a very nice early 2010 Range Rover Sport. I need it to go off road from time to time, but I'm slightly concerned about the depth of the tyres on the standard 19" wheels. Does anyone else go off road regularly in one of these on the standard wheels, or should I be looking to change to smaller wheels/larger tyres?
I'm not an experienced off-roader, so I would welcome views.
Thanks
Steve
I've just invested rather more money than I had intended in a very nice early 2010 Range Rover Sport. I need it to go off road from time to time, but I'm slightly concerned about the depth of the tyres on the standard 19" wheels. Does anyone else go off road regularly in one of these on the standard wheels, or should I be looking to change to smaller wheels/larger tyres?
I'm not an experienced off-roader, so I would welcome views.
Thanks
Steve
It really depends on the type of off roading you intend to do.
Mud will probably be ok but you run the risk of damaging the rims on rocks, depending on the height of the sidewall.
Having said that, you're probably not going to get anywhere with standard road tyres. Can you get ATs in your wheel size?
Mud will probably be ok but you run the risk of damaging the rims on rocks, depending on the height of the sidewall.
Having said that, you're probably not going to get anywhere with standard road tyres. Can you get ATs in your wheel size?
My offroading will really only be fields and rutted tracks, maybe the odd stream, nothing more than that. The vast majority of my miles are on motorways so that has to be my first consideration, and I would be reluctant to put all terrain (AT?) tyres on if that affected my road-going performance. However, I don't really want to mess up the alloys if I can avoid it, and I don't know how likely I am to do that with the sort of offroading I've described.
I have taken my Range Rover Sport G4 on a 3,000 mile expedition to and across Morocco - 1,500 motorway miles there and 1,500 offroad miles when I got there.
I kept the standard 19" wheels on mine and fitted Goodyear M/TR tyres, as used on the G4 Challenge and Land Rover Experience cars. They were absolutely excellent both on and offroad, they are a little more noisy on road (not a lot) and may have knocked 1mpg off the economy (hard to tell!) but overall I was very impressed.
Before we went I did go greenlaning in Yorkshire with the standard road tyres fitted and on some very soft peat/mud track I did get stuck and had to usee the winch to recover without causing any damage to the environment. I am sure with lots of power and wheelspin you could get up, but if you have a winch and can avoid any environmental damage you should.
So, my advice would be get some 19" wheels with decent tyres. I am currently selling my car, if the buyer does not want the spare wheels and MTR tyres I will sell them seperately, but will be a few weeks yet I imagine.
I kept the standard 19" wheels on mine and fitted Goodyear M/TR tyres, as used on the G4 Challenge and Land Rover Experience cars. They were absolutely excellent both on and offroad, they are a little more noisy on road (not a lot) and may have knocked 1mpg off the economy (hard to tell!) but overall I was very impressed.
Before we went I did go greenlaning in Yorkshire with the standard road tyres fitted and on some very soft peat/mud track I did get stuck and had to usee the winch to recover without causing any damage to the environment. I am sure with lots of power and wheelspin you could get up, but if you have a winch and can avoid any environmental damage you should.
So, my advice would be get some 19" wheels with decent tyres. I am currently selling my car, if the buyer does not want the spare wheels and MTR tyres I will sell them seperately, but will be a few weeks yet I imagine.
Were good tyres the MT/R's but no longer available from Goodyear.......the new Duratrac is available if you can find them.
I am just back from Spain tyre testing with Continental/General tyre, we had five new D4's and did all the mountain tracks north of Alicante, we were on the General AT 255/55x19 which did a great job, very popular tyre with most of my customers.
I am just back from Spain tyre testing with Continental/General tyre, we had five new D4's and did all the mountain tracks north of Alicante, we were on the General AT 255/55x19 which did a great job, very popular tyre with most of my customers.
Folks
Thanks for the advice here; I've been on holiday for a week so just back and catching up.
I have been looking on eBay and have come across 18" wheels with part-worn tyres that claim to fit my RRS - would this be an even better idea than 19"? Here's the link to the ones I was looking at and I would welcome views on whether these are a sensible idea.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x-O-E-LAND-RANGE-ROVER-...
Thanks again.
Steve
Thanks for the advice here; I've been on holiday for a week so just back and catching up.
I have been looking on eBay and have come across 18" wheels with part-worn tyres that claim to fit my RRS - would this be an even better idea than 19"? Here's the link to the ones I was looking at and I would welcome views on whether these are a sensible idea.
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4x-O-E-LAND-RANGE-ROVER-...
Thanks again.
Steve
kooky guy said:
Having said that, you're probably not going to get anywhere with standard road tyres. Can you get ATs in your wheel size?
Land Rover Experience leave them on standard road tyres, they will go pretty much anywhere anyway. Obviously for really tough stuff off-road tyres will help.Mike_C said:
KevinA4quattro said:
Land Rover Experience leave them on standard road tyres, they will go pretty much anywhere anyway. Obviously for really tough stuff off-road tyres will help.
Depends what car - the M/TR's currently on my RRS G4 came secondhand from Land Rover Experience.M
camel_landy said:
Mike_C said:
KevinA4quattro said:
Land Rover Experience leave them on standard road tyres, they will go pretty much anywhere anyway. Obviously for really tough stuff off-road tyres will help.
Depends what car - the M/TR's currently on my RRS G4 came secondhand from Land Rover Experience.M
Having thought about this, I'm going to get some 19" wheels, ideally with tyres already fitted. I want something that is primarily suited to onroad, but that isn't totally useless offroad. I would welcome views on the wisdom of buying a set from eBay, or any other suggestions.
Thanks
Steve
SteveM46 said:
Anyone want to explain to a novice here what MT/Rs are?
Having thought about this, I'm going to get some 19" wheels, ideally with tyres already fitted. I want something that is primarily suited to onroad, but that isn't totally useless offroad. I would welcome views on the wisdom of buying a set from eBay, or any other suggestions.
Thanks
Steve
Hi Steve,Having thought about this, I'm going to get some 19" wheels, ideally with tyres already fitted. I want something that is primarily suited to onroad, but that isn't totally useless offroad. I would welcome views on the wisdom of buying a set from eBay, or any other suggestions.
Thanks
Steve
The 'MT/R' is a particular type of mud tyre, it's short for the "Goodyear Wrangler MT/R". The tyre itself isn't manufactured any more but was used by Land Rover on the G4 Challenge (hence why Mike got a set for his G4 RRS). They are also used by Land Rover Experience as a 'extreme' tyre (though as previously stated, that's the exception rather than the rule).
The MT/R is good on-road but they will wear out quickly. If you're after something road biased, I'd be looking at the General AT2 (I think you can get them for the RRS) or the Pirelli Scorpion Zero. Don't be worried that the tyre doesn't look 'butch' enough, a lot of it is down to the way you drive...
Tyre choice is ALWAYS about COMPROMISE.e-Blag is a good place to look for rims or even talking to someone like 'Sarge4x4' as he often has rims as 'take-offs'. I'm sure he'd be able to suitable package deal on the tyres and he knows his stuff. Obviously with e-Blag, it's a 'buyer-beware' situation and one thing to be aware of is if you have Brembos on the front of your car, you can only fit 2x specific 19" rims.
M
thread resurrect!
I have owned numerous 4x4s over the years, including Older RR's and later Discos.
Few weeks ago purchased a 1 year old RRS red edition - very nice, but for one thing!
In 2 weeks I have managed to ding all 4 rims - It never occurred to me this would be a problem being such a big a capable car...
...How wrong I was!
LHS because I had to get out of the way of a lorry coming the other way so mounted the curb (slowly) so bruised both rims
Then today both RHS ones going up a lowered curb at a slant which I did not expect to be a problem... - so I am really, really miffed!
This never happened in all the years with the other LRs!
So it seems that the rims on this thing are so exposed with those silly skinny tyres it rather makes a mockery of it nature.
I can't count how many times I crawled over obstructions and curbs etc in my other LRs with never a problem...
So.. looks like I will have to get a refurb done on these....but then I would be worried about the next time!
Therefore I am on the hunt for deeper all-terrain tyres and wheels that won’t suffer so much from my ham-fisted driving it seems. Any suggestions?
Will 18inch black (zu) rims fit properly with maybe Cooper all terrain tyres and still look in keeping with the car?
I have owned numerous 4x4s over the years, including Older RR's and later Discos.
Few weeks ago purchased a 1 year old RRS red edition - very nice, but for one thing!
In 2 weeks I have managed to ding all 4 rims - It never occurred to me this would be a problem being such a big a capable car...
...How wrong I was!
LHS because I had to get out of the way of a lorry coming the other way so mounted the curb (slowly) so bruised both rims
Then today both RHS ones going up a lowered curb at a slant which I did not expect to be a problem... - so I am really, really miffed!
This never happened in all the years with the other LRs!
So it seems that the rims on this thing are so exposed with those silly skinny tyres it rather makes a mockery of it nature.
I can't count how many times I crawled over obstructions and curbs etc in my other LRs with never a problem...
So.. looks like I will have to get a refurb done on these....but then I would be worried about the next time!
Therefore I am on the hunt for deeper all-terrain tyres and wheels that won’t suffer so much from my ham-fisted driving it seems. Any suggestions?
Will 18inch black (zu) rims fit properly with maybe Cooper all terrain tyres and still look in keeping with the car?
Hi 3Dee
As you can see, I went through the same thought processes earlier in the year. Based on advice here, I decided on 19" wheels and some deeper profile tyres. I considered predominantly offroad tyres, but being honest with myself I realised that I would spend more time onroad than off and I didn't want the additional noise from the offroad tyres.
In the end, I went to ebay and found a set of new 19" wheels fitted with Pirelli Scorpion tyres. These are road tyres but a bit more sensible offroad than the originals fitted to my 20" wheels. I got them from somewhere like bespokecars.co.uk who buy Range Rovers and Land Rovers and then modify them. If they take a set of 19" wheels off a car to bling it up then they sell on the wheels and tyres new or almost new at what I felt was a sensible price - I think I paid around £950 for four alloys/tyres, and the tyres had only delivery mileage on them. My local quickfit swapped the wheels round for £50.
You know what your predominant use will be, and how much you can afford, but I've found the 19"wheels with deeper tyres much more sensible than the originals, and so far I haven't bumped an alloy whether on a curb or a rock so I am very happy with my decision.
Cheers
Steve
As you can see, I went through the same thought processes earlier in the year. Based on advice here, I decided on 19" wheels and some deeper profile tyres. I considered predominantly offroad tyres, but being honest with myself I realised that I would spend more time onroad than off and I didn't want the additional noise from the offroad tyres.
In the end, I went to ebay and found a set of new 19" wheels fitted with Pirelli Scorpion tyres. These are road tyres but a bit more sensible offroad than the originals fitted to my 20" wheels. I got them from somewhere like bespokecars.co.uk who buy Range Rovers and Land Rovers and then modify them. If they take a set of 19" wheels off a car to bling it up then they sell on the wheels and tyres new or almost new at what I felt was a sensible price - I think I paid around £950 for four alloys/tyres, and the tyres had only delivery mileage on them. My local quickfit swapped the wheels round for £50.
You know what your predominant use will be, and how much you can afford, but I've found the 19"wheels with deeper tyres much more sensible than the originals, and so far I haven't bumped an alloy whether on a curb or a rock so I am very happy with my decision.
Cheers
Steve
SteveM46 said:
Hi 3Dee
As you can see, I went through the same thought processes earlier in the year. Based on advice here, I decided on 19" wheels and some deeper profile tyres. I considered predominantly offroad tyres, but being honest with myself I realised that I would spend more time onroad than off and I didn't want the additional noise from the offroad tyres.
In the end, I went to ebay and found a set of new 19" wheels fitted with Pirelli Scorpion tyres. These are road tyres but a bit more sensible offroad than the originals fitted to my 20" wheels. I got them from somewhere like bespokecars.co.uk who buy Range Rovers and Land Rovers and then modify them. If they take a set of 19" wheels off a car to bling it up then they sell on the wheels and tyres new or almost new at what I felt was a sensible price - I think I paid around £950 for four alloys/tyres, and the tyres had only delivery mileage on them. My local quickfit swapped the wheels round for £50.
You know what your predominant use will be, and how much you can afford, but I've found the 19"wheels with deeper tyres much more sensible than the originals, and so far I haven't bumped an alloy whether on a curb or a rock so I am very happy with my decision.
Cheers
Steve
Bit of a minefield this, isn't it!As you can see, I went through the same thought processes earlier in the year. Based on advice here, I decided on 19" wheels and some deeper profile tyres. I considered predominantly offroad tyres, but being honest with myself I realised that I would spend more time onroad than off and I didn't want the additional noise from the offroad tyres.
In the end, I went to ebay and found a set of new 19" wheels fitted with Pirelli Scorpion tyres. These are road tyres but a bit more sensible offroad than the originals fitted to my 20" wheels. I got them from somewhere like bespokecars.co.uk who buy Range Rovers and Land Rovers and then modify them. If they take a set of 19" wheels off a car to bling it up then they sell on the wheels and tyres new or almost new at what I felt was a sensible price - I think I paid around £950 for four alloys/tyres, and the tyres had only delivery mileage on them. My local quickfit swapped the wheels round for £50.
You know what your predominant use will be, and how much you can afford, but I've found the 19"wheels with deeper tyres much more sensible than the originals, and so far I haven't bumped an alloy whether on a curb or a rock so I am very happy with my decision.
Cheers
Steve
While I was in at the dealers yesterday (they were replacing a faulty pedal switch + sware upload to fix dab radio outage) I talked to the resident expert on tyres etc explaining my problem, and he suggested that going down to 19 or 18 inch rims was bad news as it could put more load/damage the diffs (eh?) - have no clue where he got that nugget of info, but I gues this was a way of telling me that it would invalidate the warranty! He went on to suggest keeping the 20 inch rims and they recommend Cooper LT's saying his customers who had done this were very pleased with the result and didn't bash the rims any more. Coopers £150 + VAT each fitted!
so... I am confused and not sure what to do next...
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