series 2a.....so what went wrong for me today?
series 2a.....so what went wrong for me today?
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bernhund

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3,798 posts

217 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Was looking forward to going to work in the snow today. I did find some very icy roads but there wasn't really enough snow anywhere to have fun around Sevenoaks, however I did find a huge puddle that needed dividing! I reckon it was a good 40ft long and probably around 9 inches deep, so pedal to the metal as I approached and through we went only to grind to a halt just as we came out the other side. Now I've seen official Land Rover adverts where the guy drives through a river without any problem, I've also seen a YouTube video of someone driving down a very deep flooded road forcing a huge wave in front down the road. So what went wrong?
Basically the engine was turning over but it didn't start. I unclipped the distributor cap and gave it a wipe, but no joy. After a lot of trying the engine eventually fired up but was definitely missing for a while, then it cleared and all was well. Any suggestions as to how to avoid this again? (apart from driving carefully!)

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

159 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Leaky seals letting water in somewhere or maybe water in the breather pipes? Also could be the electrics giving out, but quite unlikely. The defenders that drive practically underwater generally have had quite a bit of work done to ensure they are waterproof. I've had my Rangey (L322) in about 2ft of water before without issues, but I had to give the engine bay a gentle clean as it was full of pondweed and scum,

bernhund

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3,798 posts

217 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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TheAllSeeingPie said:
Leaky seals letting water in somewhere or maybe water in the breather pipes? Also could be the electrics giving out, but quite unlikely. The defenders that drive practically underwater generally have had quite a bit of work done to ensure they are waterproof. I've had my Rangey (L322) in about 2ft of water before without issues, but I had to give the engine bay a gentle clean as it was full of pondweed and scum,
That's what I like to hear..someone with a posh 4x4 using it properly! Excellent.

cpas

1,661 posts

264 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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Anything with a petrol engine will suffer from water getting into the ignition electrics, be it inside the distributor or just the leads. The high voltage in the HT circuit is very lazy and loves to use water to find a quicker route to earth smile My mate's V8 Range Rover used to hate any amount of water when we were off roading whereas the diesel vehicles would carry on plodding through.

paintman

7,852 posts

214 months

Friday 18th January 2013
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bernhund said:
pedal to the metal as I approached and through we went only to grind to a halt just as we came out the other side.
Don't drive into standing water at speed, you'll just throw water all over the engine - you'd get away with it with a diesel, but not with a petrolsmile
There are occasions when you might have to do it but its best avoided.
You might find these Land Rover films of interest:
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2I17OtZp6E
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwlALeoBOKU&fea...

bernhund

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3,798 posts

217 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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paintman said:
bernhund said:
pedal to the metal as I approached and through we went only to grind to a halt just as we came out the other side.
Don't drive into standing water at speed, you'll just throw water all over the engine - you'd get away with it with a diesel, but not with a petrolsmile
There are occasions when you might have to do it but its best avoided.
You might find these Land Rover films of interest:
Part 1 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q2I17OtZp6E
Part 2 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PwlALeoBOKU&fea...
Love those videos, I've seen them before. 'Check the river isn't too deep'..man steps in and peers at depth 2ft off shore..looks ok to me! Also the voice sounds like the one from Bagpuss AND the man should've had a hair cut before filming!

paintman

7,852 posts

214 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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Very fashionable in the 70s!

anonymous-user

78 months

Saturday 19th January 2013
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paintman said:
Don't drive into standing water at speed, you'll just throw water all over the engine - you'd get away with it with a diesel, but not with a petrolsmile
This or +1 or whatever it is.

West4x4

672 posts

196 months

Sunday 20th January 2013
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You need good quality ignition parts. Gives you the biggest best spark. Then i used to put the cut off bottom of a coke bottle one top of dizzy to protect it from splashes and a good coating of silicon spray over the leads etc

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

159 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Also don't trust small cars when you see something that looks like an icy road. I saw a C1 drive over some ice in a dip which turned out to be 1ft deep water for a 3 ton Range Rover ....

paintman

7,852 posts

214 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Other problem with water is that unless you check the depth first you won't know if there are any dips, holes, missing drain covers, boulders/obstructions until you get stuck.
Crossing flowing water requires even greater care. People generally don't realise just how powerful it can be - as is unfortunately often shown to be the case after floods.
Don't let it put you off, learn how to do it properly, treat it with respect & you can have a lot of fun.

TheAllSeeingPie

865 posts

159 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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In this case it was a bridge I know well and I knew water pooled under there. Since the C1 went over it I guess I didn't notice the water level was a few bricks higher than normal. If it was a stream or other flowing water I would have been a lot more careful. Still I learned my lesson and I don't think I've done any damage (at least I couldn't see any and the car was driving find after).

Dave^

7,800 posts

277 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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bernhund said:
Any suggestions as to how to avoid this again?
Try carrying a bit more speed, and maybe build a bit of a ramp just in front of said "puddle"...

Like this... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q-t7GlWf3zw

bernhund

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3,798 posts

217 months

Monday 21st January 2013
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Lovin' the suggestions and little anecdotes on this thread.smile

schmalex

13,616 posts

230 months

Wednesday 23rd January 2013
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Before I take my S3 off-roading, I always coat the spark plugs, dizzy, coil, battery terminals, ends of the HT leads liberally in vaseline. I've been through water deep enough to come in through the bottom of the doors and everything has been fine.

Quite a few people take a rubber glove and cut the ends off the fingers to poke the HT leads though on secure the hand bit onto the distributor with a rubber band. I've not tried it, as it sounds a little new-fangled to me!!!