L405 supercharged - who has one for a test drive please?
Discussion
Phil. said:
Get yourself invited to a new RR day. I attended one a couple of weeks ago. You get a choice of models and let loose with a sat nav for 1.5 hrs to play and then return for another hour off road and then lunch in a castle. Great day.
i've been invited to several dealer launches of the L405 - sadly none have the superchargedi've done the LR experience - really want to drive the SC on the road - currently have a petrol 4.4 V8 FFRR
grand cherokee said:
i've been invited to several dealer launches of the L405 - sadly none have the supercharged
i've done the LR experience - really want to drive the SC on the road - currently have a petrol 4.4 V8 FFRR
Mine did at Eastnor Castle. It was 1.5hrs on road followed by an hour off road. Ask again.i've done the LR experience - really want to drive the SC on the road - currently have a petrol 4.4 V8 FFRR
Edited to add. Last week I had my 4.4 TDV8 remapped by JE Engineering. Take a look at the graphs, it isn't that much slower than the supercharged but will do 35mpg if I'm sensible on a run. And it's great fun
Who needs a supercharged now 
http://portal.jeengineering.co.uk/engines/diesel-t...
Edited by Phil. on Sunday 24th February 17:26
Phil. said:
Mine did at Eastnor Castle. It was 1.5hrs on road followed by an hour off road. Ask again.
Edited to add. Last week I had my 4.4 TDV8 remapped by JE Engineering. Take a look at the graphs, it isn't that much slower than the supercharged but will do 35mpg if I'm sensible on a run. And it's great fun Who needs a supercharged now
http://portal.jeengineering.co.uk/engines/diesel-t...
know JE very wellEdited to add. Last week I had my 4.4 TDV8 remapped by JE Engineering. Take a look at the graphs, it isn't that much slower than the supercharged but will do 35mpg if I'm sensible on a run. And it's great fun
Who needs a supercharged now http://portal.jeengineering.co.uk/engines/diesel-t...
Edited by Phil. on Sunday 24th February 17:26
not about to remap a brand new car and loose all warranty am i?
not forgetting the insurance - you would be mad not to declare any remap and having no insurance
some claim their remaps are not detectable by main dealers - simply not true
JE are honest and make no such claims
Edited by grand cherokee on Monday 25th February 08:34
Phil. said:
My insurance are fully informed as they were when I had my 3.6 remapped at JE.
I suggest you drive a JE mapped 4.4 TDV8 before buying a new RR.
thanks Phil - but i'm interested in the L405I suggest you drive a JE mapped 4.4 TDV8 before buying a new RR.
also there is still the fact that ANY remap voids warranty - whats the situation with your 2011 as its still under warranty?
Edited by grand cherokee on Monday 25th February 11:09
The LR warranty is put at risk by a remap but I am prepared to accept this risk. I ran two remapped TVR Cerbera's for years without a warranty.
Unless you want a L405 for looks alone I suggest you drive a late similar spec L322 back-to-back with a L405 and ask yourself if the extra £40k-£50k is worth it. I did this and it was the reason I decided the keep my MY11 for while longer, hence the remap which has improved the driving experience immensely. Several others have come to the same conclusion after driving the L405 and comparing the cost to swap versus the (lack of) gains on a late model L322.
Unless you want a L405 for looks alone I suggest you drive a late similar spec L322 back-to-back with a L405 and ask yourself if the extra £40k-£50k is worth it. I did this and it was the reason I decided the keep my MY11 for while longer, hence the remap which has improved the driving experience immensely. Several others have come to the same conclusion after driving the L405 and comparing the cost to swap versus the (lack of) gains on a late model L322.
Phil. said:
The LR warranty is put at risk by a remap but I am prepared to accept this risk. I ran two remapped TVR Cerbera's for years without a warranty.
Unless you want a L405 for looks alone I suggest you drive a late similar spec L322 back-to-back with a L405 and ask yourself if the extra £40k-£50k is worth it. I did this and it was the reason I decided the keep my MY11 for while longer, hence the remap which has improved the driving experience immensely. Several others have come to the same conclusion after driving the L405 and comparing the cost to swap versus the (lack of) gains on a late model L322.
out of interest, does the remap make it more or less thirsty?Unless you want a L405 for looks alone I suggest you drive a late similar spec L322 back-to-back with a L405 and ask yourself if the extra £40k-£50k is worth it. I did this and it was the reason I decided the keep my MY11 for while longer, hence the remap which has improved the driving experience immensely. Several others have come to the same conclusion after driving the L405 and comparing the cost to swap versus the (lack of) gains on a late model L322.
tamore said:
out of interest, does the remap make it more or less thirsty?
Less thirsty under normal driving conditions. Saw an average of 35mpg on the way home last week for the first time in more than 12000 miles. Probably 5% to 10% improvement overall. In haven't managed less than an average 30mpg since I remapped and that has included some spirited driving to enjoy the new torque levels. NomduJour said:
By the same reckoning, is a £55k 2011 4.4 TDV8 objectively worth £47.5k more than a 2003 4.4 V8?
Possibly not, but it doesn't work like that.
There is a 8 year difference in your comparison versus us. 1-2 year difference in mine. Plus the point I am making is that the difference in terms of benefits between a late L322 compared with a L405 (excluding looks) is much smaller than is being promoted by LR, certainly not worth £50k IMHO. Whereas I would pay a lot more (and have) for the improvement between a 2003 and a late L322 which are real. Possibly not, but it doesn't work like that.
i drove a '11 4.4 Vogue SE and a new model '13 4.4 Vogue SE back to back at the weekend and i thought the difference was considerable, in terms of interior quality, space, ride/handling, steering response, turn-in, refinement, performance, on board tech etc etc. i was reassured that for me i made the right decision to splash out on the new model. lets hope it's reliable, getting one so early in the production run, thats my main concern !
That's great. For me the interior quality was similar to my Vogue SE (seats identical etc.), replacing most of the buttons with screens was a less intuitive, front space where i spend my time was unchanged. cornering stability was improved, and therefore it wasn't worth the £50k to swap, particularly when considering the increased early year depreciation the new price hike will result in. It's the £20k price hike over the two models that I can't justify.
seawise said:
i drove a '11 4.4 Vogue SE and a new model '13 4.4 Vogue SE back to back at the weekend and i thought the difference was considerable, in terms of interior quality, space, ride/handling, steering response, turn-in, refinement, performance, on board tech etc etc. i was reassured that for me i made the right decision to splash out on the new model. lets hope it's reliable, getting one so early in the production run, thats my main concern !
exactly - i've got a 2005 4.4 V8 Vogue thats had a supercharged facelift done by a Range Rover main dealers authorised bodyshop - so its all ok and warrantied by LR - non of this DIY stuff - lol!the car has every conceivable extra to Autobiography spec (inc rear entertainment screens/dvd etc) - plus new digital tuner etc - in Tonga with Ivory in perfect condition - regularly professionally detailed inc paint correction
i've driven plenty of 2010+ cars and in truth they offer very little over my car (seats are worse imo) - certainly not worth spending say £40K+
the only thing the later cars offer that i really want/need are the deployable side steps - i'm a short arse with a very bad hip and they are a godsend - fixed steps go nowhere near
so the L405 is my choice - the only thing to consider for me is the massive first year or so depreciation (private not company car) and the fact that various 'upgrades/mods' will be made after the first users have field tested the cars
when i at last get to drive an SC i will make up my mind
Edited by grand cherokee on Tuesday 26th February 11:46
Edited by grand cherokee on Wednesday 27th February 08:16
grand cherokee said:
seawise said:
i drove a '11 4.4 Vogue SE and a new model '13 4.4 Vogue SE back to back at the weekend and i thought the difference was considerable, in terms of interior quality, space, ride/handling, steering response, turn-in, refinement, performance, on board tech etc etc. i was reassured that for me i made the right decision to splash out on the new model. lets hope it's reliable, getting one so early in the production run, thats my main concern !
exactly - i've got a 2005 4.4 V8 Vogue thats had a supercharged facelift done by a Range Rover main dealers authorised bodyshop - so its all ok and warrantied by LR - non of this DIY stuff - lol!the car has every conceivable extra to Autobiography spec - plus new digital tuner etc - in Tonga with Ivory in perfect condition - regularly professionally detailed inc paint correction
i've driven plenty of 2010+ cars and in truth they offer very little over my car (seats are worse imo) - certainly not worth spending say £40K+
the only thing the later cars offer that i really want/need are the deployable side steps - i'm a short arse with a very bad hip and they are a godsend - fixed steps go nowhere near
so the L405 is my choice - the only thing to consider for me is the massive first year or so depreciation (private not company car) and the fact that various 'upgrades/mods' will be made after the first users have field tested the cars
when i at last get to drive an SC i will make up my mind
Edited by grand cherokee on Tuesday 26th February 11:46
Do the insurance company mind about the facelift?
When would you be looking to sell?
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