full fat vs semi-skimmed
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Evening all
The past few days I have been looking at Range Rovers, both full fat and sport.
I have done all my working out: fuel usage per month, insurance.. everything
The thing I cant work out is how they drive and which one I would want to buy
I have decided I want the 4.2 supercharged engine in either car
Now I know they arent going to be a sports car, but what are they actually like?
I prefer the interior of the full fat, and they are easier to find with LPG (both plus points) but asking around I dont think the way it drives is my sort of thing.. "sloppy and scarey at times"
Also, what are the like off road?
nothing mental.. bit of green laning, few muddy tracks, hills etc.. not everest
I imagine the sport would be easier to live with, more car like driving etc.. but I dont think it would be all that off road, or am i wrong?
any further info on either would be greatly appriciated
what to look for, common problems etc
I am looking at around 2005-2007 on both (due to prices)
thanks
The past few days I have been looking at Range Rovers, both full fat and sport.
I have done all my working out: fuel usage per month, insurance.. everything
The thing I cant work out is how they drive and which one I would want to buy
I have decided I want the 4.2 supercharged engine in either car
Now I know they arent going to be a sports car, but what are they actually like?
I prefer the interior of the full fat, and they are easier to find with LPG (both plus points) but asking around I dont think the way it drives is my sort of thing.. "sloppy and scarey at times"
Also, what are the like off road?
nothing mental.. bit of green laning, few muddy tracks, hills etc.. not everest
I imagine the sport would be easier to live with, more car like driving etc.. but I dont think it would be all that off road, or am i wrong?
any further info on either would be greatly appriciated
what to look for, common problems etc
I am looking at around 2005-2007 on both (due to prices)
thanks
Off road both are extremely capable. About the same as each other although maybe the size of the FFRR may count against it. Sport's low profile tyres are not the best thing. One sharp rock and pop they go.
On road, the Sport is, well, more sporty but also the interior is more at the Discovery end of things rather than Range Rover.
On road, the Sport is, well, more sporty but also the interior is more at the Discovery end of things rather than Range Rover.
The Genuflectee said:
Off road both are extremely capable. About the same as each other although maybe the size of the FFRR may count against it. Sport's low profile tyres are not the best thing. One sharp rock and pop they go.
On road, the Sport is, well, more sporty but also the interior is more at the Discovery end of things rather than Range Rover.
thats what I feel about the interior.. seen a few, dont get me wrong, its nice.. but compared to a FFRR its nothing specialOn road, the Sport is, well, more sporty but also the interior is more at the Discovery end of things rather than Range Rover.
Is a FFRR a sloppy mess on the road or "not too bad for its size"
The Genuflectee said:
Everything is relative, right? Depends what you're used to. A FFRR is a wonderful wafting thing but if you are used to a Porsche then you will be utterly disappointed.
My advice would be to stretch to a 5 liter supercharged Sport because the interior is better than the 4.2.
To be fair, the only decent handling car I have owned has been an MX5, and im not daft enough to even try and compare them..My advice would be to stretch to a 5 liter supercharged Sport because the interior is better than the 4.2.
I think it would be closer to the Peugeot 405 I have at the moment haha.. hopefully not as floppy..
I have been driving a mates Nissan Navara recently, and thats a fairly capable car.. fingures crossed it would be more like that.
My budget really wont stretch to a 5 litre Sport
Looking through the Ads (autotrader ebay blah blah) its far easier to pick up a low milage FFRR with a 2010/12 face lift..
I just dont want to buy something, and be bored with it 6 months down the line.. £15 grand is a lot to blow on a car
One more thing..
I have been asking around a few people but not been able to put this to bed.. how bad are they on fuel?
I cant imagine either will do much above 18 mpg..
I do a little town driving, but mostly journies of 15/20 minutes (seeing freinds etc) somewhere upto 600 miles a month.. give or take 150
I have been asking around a few people but not been able to put this to bed.. how bad are they on fuel?
I cant imagine either will do much above 18 mpg..
I do a little town driving, but mostly journies of 15/20 minutes (seeing freinds etc) somewhere upto 600 miles a month.. give or take 150
Scoticus said:
One more thing..
I have been asking around a few people but not been able to put this to bed.. how bad are they on fuel?
I cant imagine either will do much above 18 mpg..
I do a little town driving, but mostly journies of 15/20 minutes (seeing freinds etc) somewhere upto 600 miles a month.. give or take 150
A 4.2? Atrocious. A diesel Disco struggles to get high 20s. Never owned a 4.2 FFRR but it'll be awful.I have been asking around a few people but not been able to put this to bed.. how bad are they on fuel?
I cant imagine either will do much above 18 mpg..
I do a little town driving, but mostly journies of 15/20 minutes (seeing freinds etc) somewhere upto 600 miles a month.. give or take 150
A huntin' shootin' fishin' horsey type I walk dogs with has downsized (literally) from a full fat to a Sport.
He does a bit of green laning to get where he has to go rather than for the sheer hell of it but doesn't do anything too extreme and the Sport is more than up for the job.
What I love about his car is that it is always filthy inside and out, smells more like a dog than a dog and you can't see out of his rear windows for spanial snot.
He has been into RRs for years and has owned every model dating back to the Classic. His view on the current RR is that it has become too big, too wide in particular, and too cumbersome for country lanes and your typical Scottish Rural single track roads and that the Sport has allowed him to stick with the brand.
He does a bit of green laning to get where he has to go rather than for the sheer hell of it but doesn't do anything too extreme and the Sport is more than up for the job.
What I love about his car is that it is always filthy inside and out, smells more like a dog than a dog and you can't see out of his rear windows for spanial snot.
He has been into RRs for years and has owned every model dating back to the Classic. His view on the current RR is that it has become too big, too wide in particular, and too cumbersome for country lanes and your typical Scottish Rural single track roads and that the Sport has allowed him to stick with the brand.
If you ask us lot for an opinion for which is better out of the FFRR or the RRS, every single person will give you a different answer. You are the one who has to live with it, so the only way for you to decide is for you to take them both for a test drive.
I like them both but for different reasons but rest assured that both of them are fantastic off-road (Which if you're going to use it in the mud often, 19" rims are a better choice).
M
I like them both but for different reasons but rest assured that both of them are fantastic off-road (Which if you're going to use it in the mud often, 19" rims are a better choice).
M
Thanks everyone.
Looking at the cars currently for sale, on here, ebay and autotrader, I have found that you can get more car if you buy a FFRR.
Plus, the interior is much much nice in them.. the Sport seems to be lacking something, I cant quite put my finger on it though.
I find my self sawying to the FFRR..
Like its been said, ill have to take some out and have a play.. Saying that though, being my age ill struggle.. 22 year old looking at a rangy :/
I just hope they dont handle like a boat, they have everything I have been looking for
Looking at the cars currently for sale, on here, ebay and autotrader, I have found that you can get more car if you buy a FFRR.
Plus, the interior is much much nice in them.. the Sport seems to be lacking something, I cant quite put my finger on it though.
I find my self sawying to the FFRR..
Like its been said, ill have to take some out and have a play.. Saying that though, being my age ill struggle.. 22 year old looking at a rangy :/
I just hope they dont handle like a boat, they have everything I have been looking for
If your using the 4.2 for short journey around town expect low teens, can't imagine why anyone would buy one over the excellent TDV8 which is a nicer all-round bet, if you've to tried one then you might be surprised. with the 4.2 you may even see single figures if you have a heavy right foot
dazzalse said:
If your using the 4.2 for short journey around town expect low teens, can't imagine why anyone would buy one over the excellent TDV8 which is a nicer all-round bet, if you've to tried one then you might be surprised. with the 4.2 you may even see single figures if you have a heavy right foot
Im not a fan of diesel cars.. the past 2 cars I have had have been derv, and they just dont do anything for me.The 3.6 TDV8 isnt slow, not for a derv, but I really want the supercharged one.. and of course im willing to pay the extra in fuel, and with what I have read, its not that much more a month/year
I only do 7500/8000 miles a year so I dont really see the point in buying the TDV8.. the only derv I would buy is the 4.4, and they are double my budget.
I was just curious to how bad the S/C V8 is, and IMHO they dont seem that bad.. considering the cars weight and the fact it has the aero-dynamics of a church
Edited by Scoticus on Thursday 18th April 19:57
Short but out of town journeys, I used to get around 14 mpg out of mine.
Not the most torquey of motors low down.....they need some revs to shift the weight which is why the tdv8 is a better bet and suits the waftyness of the full fat much more.
They do handle remarkably well and can be hustled if needed....just need some nerves to keep your toe in!
Not the most torquey of motors low down.....they need some revs to shift the weight which is why the tdv8 is a better bet and suits the waftyness of the full fat much more.
They do handle remarkably well and can be hustled if needed....just need some nerves to keep your toe in!
Depending on your driving style, 6,000 - 8,000 miles PA is the approx break even point between TDV8 & Supercharged.
For me, the TDV8 is more useable as a day-to-day car... Supercharged is more of a toy.
If you use the charger all the time, you can get bored of it (which is why I run a Cerbera, when I want my high octane fix!!).
M
For me, the TDV8 is more useable as a day-to-day car... Supercharged is more of a toy.
If you use the charger all the time, you can get bored of it (which is why I run a Cerbera, when I want my high octane fix!!).
M
camel_landy said:
Cheib said:
...I hired on once in Ireland, couldn't believe how much cheaper it felt inside than my X5.
It also depends on the spec of car......and to complicate matters, the Irish market has a different spec of car anyway!
M
I have a 4.4 V8 FFRR(petrol)- and love it
driven a few sports and I don't really like the interior - as others have said it looks and feels cheaper
I recently had a virtually brand new Disco as a courtesy car - car not too bad but hated the interior - like a black 'bat cave' - lots of nasty cheap looking plastic
mine has ivory leather and even shooting/fishing its easy to keep clean without seat covers (bought them but used for a month) - the light interior just makes the whole 'cabin space' see so much larger than the dark colours
most of my driving is local and I get about 15mpg (i'm not exactly the slowest car on the road -lol!)
still trying to get a test drive in a new L405 supercharged!
driven a few sports and I don't really like the interior - as others have said it looks and feels cheaper
I recently had a virtually brand new Disco as a courtesy car - car not too bad but hated the interior - like a black 'bat cave' - lots of nasty cheap looking plastic
mine has ivory leather and even shooting/fishing its easy to keep clean without seat covers (bought them but used for a month) - the light interior just makes the whole 'cabin space' see so much larger than the dark colours
most of my driving is local and I get about 15mpg (i'm not exactly the slowest car on the road -lol!)
still trying to get a test drive in a new L405 supercharged!
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