2004 FFRR

[The Moose]

I'm going to have a look tonight at a 2004 FFRR with the V8 petrol. Anything specific to keep an eye out for?

[RedLeicester]

The Moose said:

I'm going to have a look tonight at a 2004 FFRR with the V8 petrol. Anything specific to keep an eye out for?

Terminally slow and smelly diesels getting in the way.

[The Moose]

RedLeicester said:

The Moose said:

I'm going to have a look tonight at a 2004 FFRR with the V8 petrol. Anything specific to keep an eye out for?

Terminally slow and smelly diesels getting in the way.

Believe it or not, I'd worked that one out

Anything else?!

[phib]

Gearbox gearbox gearbox oh and check the rear lifts don't let water in and all the electrics work

Phib ( it may be too late now !!)

[The Moose]

phib said:

Gearbox gearbox gearbox oh and check the rear lifts don't let water in and all the electrics work

Phib ( it may be too late now !!)

Specifically what about the box?

Rear lifts?

Seeing it today - couldn't make Thursday in the end

[grand cherokee]

The Moose said:

Specifically what about the box?

Rear lifts?

Seeing it today - couldn't make Thursday in the end

gearbox issues are with the diesels

I drive a 4.4 V8 petrol

other points are just general FFRR issues

air suspension/water in rear compartment which houses dvd etc/rust in wheel arches/rust on lower edge of upper tailgate/electrics generally/has tv tuner been upgraded to digital?

if you mail me i'll give you my phone number and talk things through

Edited by grand cherokee on Saturday 25th May 12:02

[phib]

Sorry

Rear lights !!! ( beer and typing) Let water in check spare wheel well ( lots of electrics near here )

Gearbox on petrols too had mine rebuilt twice !!

Phib

[grand cherokee]

phib said:

Sorry

Rear lights !!! ( beer and typing) Let water in check spare wheel well ( lots of electrics near here )

Gearbox on petrols too had mine rebuilt twice !!

Phib

think you have been unlucky with gearbox as the 4.4 V8 box is generally considered pretty bullet proof

but of course there are exceptions to every rule - if you had yours rebuilt twice i'd seriously look to whoever rebuilt your box?

the rear lights/water applies to most of the cars - simple fix on FFRR - drill a small hole - problem solved

Edited by grand cherokee on Saturday 25th May 13:41

[The Moose]

grand cherokee said:

The Moose said:

Specifically what about the box?

Rear lifts?

Seeing it today - couldn't make Thursday in the end

gearbox issues are with the diesels

I drive a 4.4 V8 petrol

other points are just general FFRR issues

air suspension/water in rear compartment which houses dvd etc/rust in wheel arches/rust on lower edge of upper tailgate/electrics generally/has tv tuner been upgraded to digital?

if you mail me i'll give you my phone number and talk things through

Edited by grand cherokee on Saturday 25th May 12:02

That's a kind offer. Thank you. PM sent

[phib]

Re the gearbox on the petrol there well renowned for eating gearboxes.

Out of the 3 x 4.4 petrols we had all 3 had gearboxes at or around 100-120k

Land rover rebuilt them under warranty as they were less than 3 years old at the time

Had about 15 l322's as a family all have issues just some less than others !

Phib

[tamore]

well, did you moose?

[grand cherokee]

phib said:

Re the gearbox on the petrol there well renowned for eating gearboxes.

Out of the 3 x 4.4 petrols we had all 3 had gearboxes at or around 100-120k

Land rover rebuilt them under warranty as they were less than 3 years old at the time

Had about 15 l322's as a family all have issues just some less than others !

Phib

have a look on FFRR forum - the comments would not support your claims?

yes, with the TD6 etc which has a different gearbox to the petrol V8

i'd also question if RR's are so BAD why you and your family have had 15?

Edited by grand cherokee on Tuesday 28th May 11:00

[phib]

First thread I found was this one ?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=993...

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic11305.html



There are loads of threads on the full fat site about these boxes !

Not wishing to pic a fight but this is well documented in forums and especially by landrover at the time

We are quite unusual as we have used them for farming / towing and long distance travel ( farms 300 miles apart) wee bought new and used for 2/3 years or 100k, used to run them for 130k but they cost disproportionately more for the extra 30k than buying a new one / lost time / profit for when they were off the road.

New ones have been better but the first 4.4 tdv8 was a Friday car ! Ended up being replaced.

There are loads with gearbox rebuilds : new gearboxes and if I was buying another 4.4 petrol I would buy one with the gearbox rebuilt there's so much choice.

And before the next question why didn't we choose a jeep, land cruiser ? We had both leant to us and at one point had a sponsorship deal with Chrysler but they were dire for what we wanted from them.

Much better value probably and loads cheaper but money wasn't our motivation

Phib

Edited by phib on Tuesday 28th May 11:28

[grand cherokee]

phib said:

First thread I found was this one ?

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?t=993...

http://www.fullfatrr.com/forum/topic11305.html



There are loads of threads on the full fat site about these boxes !

Not wishing to pic a fight but this is well documented in forums and especially by landrover at the time

We are quite unusual as we have used them for farming / towing and long distance travel ( farms 300 miles apart) wee bought new and used for 2/3 years or 100k, used to run them for 130k but they cost disproportionately more for the extra 30k than buying a new one / lost time / profit for when they were off the road.

New ones have been better but the first 4.4 tdv8 was a Friday car ! Ended up being replaced.

There are loads with gearbox rebuilds : new gearboxes and if I was buying another 4.4 petrol I would buy one with the gearbox rebuilt there's so much choice.

And before the next question why didn't we choose a jeep, land cruiser ? We had both leant to us and at one point had a sponsorship deal with Chrysler but they were dire for what we wanted from them.

Much better value probably and loads cheaper but money wasn't our motivation

Phib

Edited by phib on Tuesday 28th May 11:28

FFRR nothing about petrol gearbox failures?

and the PH thread was a bit 'short' to say the least?

and now faults with the TDV8?

seeing you get sponsorship deals I wonder why we mere mortals who pay for our cars bother?


or could I politely suggest that your a fantasist?

your finding faults that do not exist - why?

Edited by grand cherokee on Tuesday 28th May 13:42

[phib]

I am merely point out fact trying to help out a fellow pistonheader !!

Crickey i have only been here for about 12 years !!

You'll find a quite comprehensive overview of my previous posts detailing landrover, ranger rover, Ferrari, Porsche, BMW and originally Tvr feedback when it was all fields here !!!

No idea what your issue is here grandcherokee but I would hazard a view that you probably own a 4.4 petrol with c.100k on the clock ? And it's probably had a facelift to make it pretend to be a newer one and will be for sale here soon ?

How far out am I ?

Anyway enough of the childish quips, all range rovers have issues but they have got better with age, we've had the new ones if every model and they all have teething troubles as did TVR, Porsche and Ferrari for that matter.

To the op I would buy one run by an enthusiast fffrr or pistonheads is a great place to start, get one with a box that's done, rear lights that are sealed ( next gt will be telling us there's no issue with water in the spare wheel well !!) a good set of tyres ( about £950 for 4 from memory) and make sure the blend motors work on the air con as there a pig if a job !!

Phib

[JW911]

phib said:

... a good set of tyres ( about £950 for 4 from memory) ...

Shop around. You should be able to get good make 19s for under £700.