FFRR purchase £12-15k buyers guide?
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With the search being moody due to the time of the month can someone point me to the PH buyers guide??, im jumping into Range Rover ownership at the cheapy end and looking at a 2003/2004 TDV6 with under 80k..
known problems?
what to look out for?
spec?
servicing / consumables?
ta
chris
known problems?
what to look out for?
spec?
servicing / consumables?
ta
chris
Have a look at fullfatrr.com - guides and vehicles for sale on there and some very helpful guys.
I saw a 55 plate FFRR on a forecourt (hesitate to say dealer, trader more accurate/appropriate!) on the A127 on Saturday for £13250. Seems very cheap, no idea of condition or history. If you're in that area it was on the London-bound carriageway between Laindon and the M25.
I saw a 55 plate FFRR on a forecourt (hesitate to say dealer, trader more accurate/appropriate!) on the A127 on Saturday for £13250. Seems very cheap, no idea of condition or history. If you're in that area it was on the London-bound carriageway between Laindon and the M25.
you will be looking for a TD6, not a TDV6.
The TD6 is not a quick car, they are improved with a chip, but this can have a negative effect on the longevity of the gearbox.
At 80k I would look for one with evidence of a gearbox replacement.
Other than that, check that ALL the electrics work, including the suspension settings, wing mirrors, parking sensors. The list is long.
When I sold my 04 a couple of years ago there was some evidence of rust starting so a good check is recommended.
As suggested join full fat forum
The TD6 is not a quick car, they are improved with a chip, but this can have a negative effect on the longevity of the gearbox.
At 80k I would look for one with evidence of a gearbox replacement.
Other than that, check that ALL the electrics work, including the suspension settings, wing mirrors, parking sensors. The list is long.
When I sold my 04 a couple of years ago there was some evidence of rust starting so a good check is recommended.
As suggested join full fat forum
Yes, I missed the point about the TDV6 - there is actually no such animal in the standard L322 model range (not unless someone has converted one using parts from a Discovery). The L322 went from the BMW 6 diesel to the 3.6 TDV8 then the 4.4 TDV8. Even the early TDV8s started, last time I looked, at about £25k.
Drive the diesel before you commit - as said above they are very slow, and whilst they'll eventually grunt you out of most things, the engines are a little unrefined compared to the rest of the car. Mine's got the later Jag 4.4 V8 petrol in it, I went for petrol after test-driving a diesel.
Drive the diesel before you commit - as said above they are very slow, and whilst they'll eventually grunt you out of most things, the engines are a little unrefined compared to the rest of the car. Mine's got the later Jag 4.4 V8 petrol in it, I went for petrol after test-driving a diesel.
t around. Another recommendation for the petrol v8 (whether earlier BMW-based 4.4 or later JLR 4.2), it actually enhances the feel of the car, sounds lovely, goes much better and actually isn't much more expensive to fuel in the grand scheme of things, especially if you're not doing tens of thousands of miles. Brilliant cars, you'll love it.
Edited to add: ours was an early 4.4, had it until a couple of years ago, used it as our main family car and I still miss it despite being lucky enough to have a new Disco 4 company car as a replacement. It had a few niggles (was about the cheapest in the country when we bought it) but never anything serious. It did break down once, but only for a split oil pipe in the engine bay. The best way to travel. Except for a newer Range Rover
Edited to add: ours was an early 4.4, had it until a couple of years ago, used it as our main family car and I still miss it despite being lucky enough to have a new Disco 4 company car as a replacement. It had a few niggles (was about the cheapest in the country when we bought it) but never anything serious. It did break down once, but only for a split oil pipe in the engine bay. The best way to travel. Except for a newer Range Rover
Edited by ruaricoles on Tuesday 11th June 21:44
Mine was ok - 2006 td6 - it had enough power for pottering around, was pretty good sitting at speed on the motorway and did about 25 mpg all the time. I came out of a V8 Mercedes ML so yes, it was a fair bit slower, but speed wasn't really the point....
I much preferred it to the equivalent Sport or Disco, but mainly because the interior was lovely and it had standard wheels, no tints, no extra chrome, etc.
Everyone moans about the TD6 but have a go and see what you reckon. i found the gearbox fine but there are a lot of horror stories flying around. Bear in mind after 06 I recall they are all expensive to tax, plus it will undoubtedly want a little holiday in the garage every now and again, just to keep you on your toes.
I much preferred it to the equivalent Sport or Disco, but mainly because the interior was lovely and it had standard wheels, no tints, no extra chrome, etc.
Everyone moans about the TD6 but have a go and see what you reckon. i found the gearbox fine but there are a lot of horror stories flying around. Bear in mind after 06 I recall they are all expensive to tax, plus it will undoubtedly want a little holiday in the garage every now and again, just to keep you on your toes.
2005 TD6 here too. Paid 14k for mine a year ago and no major problems. Cheap road tax, quick enough. Just love the height, driving position and interior. It's not quick, but it's quick enough. Plenty of torque, so no problems going up-hill. My other cars a 911, so anything would feel slow!
As has been said, drive one to see if you like it.
Check both the gearbox AND front duff have been changed. LR did a recall on front duffs so make sure any you see have had the diff done. Gearboxes on the td6 are alright but not quite up to dealing with the weight of the car, above 80k seems to be the average for a rebuild.
Otherwise, check the air suspension, make are it goes up an down smoothly, the back will rise a bit quicker than the front as the engine takes a couple more seconds to rise. The pump should run to refill the tank then switch off. Constant running shows a leak and will overheat the pump, causing failure.
Make sure the electrics inside work, test everything. Make sure that there's no water leaks in the boot as there's the sat nav or similar in their and it doesn't like getting wet. Check there are no cracks etc in the lights as they can be pricy to replace.
Rust may be on the back arches, shouldn't be serious so a quick clean up and protect will be fine.
If you can, get it plugged into a code reader. This will show if there are any error codes in the memory and you can see what it's saying. Be aware, you could have codes going back years though which are no longer an issue.
I got my disco3 on a code reader, 74 codes came up. Several were from EGR failure, which had been blanked 2 years ago and some were for blown bulbs that I had replaced.
Otherwise, spec is SE, HSE, Vogue and Vogue SE. What you buy is down to how many toys you want in your car.
Check both the gearbox AND front duff have been changed. LR did a recall on front duffs so make sure any you see have had the diff done. Gearboxes on the td6 are alright but not quite up to dealing with the weight of the car, above 80k seems to be the average for a rebuild.
Otherwise, check the air suspension, make are it goes up an down smoothly, the back will rise a bit quicker than the front as the engine takes a couple more seconds to rise. The pump should run to refill the tank then switch off. Constant running shows a leak and will overheat the pump, causing failure.
Make sure the electrics inside work, test everything. Make sure that there's no water leaks in the boot as there's the sat nav or similar in their and it doesn't like getting wet. Check there are no cracks etc in the lights as they can be pricy to replace.
Rust may be on the back arches, shouldn't be serious so a quick clean up and protect will be fine.
If you can, get it plugged into a code reader. This will show if there are any error codes in the memory and you can see what it's saying. Be aware, you could have codes going back years though which are no longer an issue.
I got my disco3 on a code reader, 74 codes came up. Several were from EGR failure, which had been blanked 2 years ago and some were for blown bulbs that I had replaced.
Otherwise, spec is SE, HSE, Vogue and Vogue SE. What you buy is down to how many toys you want in your car.
Thanks for the above,
http://www.surreymotorworld.co.uk/
They always seem to have a good selection of cars, with 2 year warrenty, anyone been there?
http://www.surreymotorworld.co.uk/
They always seem to have a good selection of cars, with 2 year warrenty, anyone been there?
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