Freelander 2 now sorted?
Freelander 2 now sorted?
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rongagin

Original Poster:

481 posts

166 months

Sunday 27th March 2016
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I am in the market for a SUV and the Freelander 2 face lift 2012 is supposed to be (according to the press) much improved?

From what I read it was the old 1.8 petrol engine that gave the original Freelander a poor reputation?

The one I fancy is the GS 2.2 td4. Is this a good choice?

I don't want anything bigger than the Freelander.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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rongagin said:
I am in the market for a SUV and the Freelander 2 face lift 2012 is supposed to be (according to the press) much improved?

From what I read it was the old 1.8 petrol engine that gave the original Freelander a poor reputation?

The one I fancy is the GS 2.2 td4. Is this a good choice?

I don't want anything bigger than the Freelander.
Local dealer to me who sells lots of BMW, Merc, Audi, Bentleys and Range Rovers says the FL2 is one of the few cars that he never has issues with after a sale. He bought his wife a Disco Sport on release and she is back in a late FL2 again, she said she just prefers it.

When I was considering a Disco Sport I tried the FL2, Metropolis Edition, and very nearly bought one, I had never even considered one previously.

mickyveloce

1,035 posts

266 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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I think these are great cars. We did 60,000 trouble free miles in our 2006 2.2 SE manual, and replaced it with a "last batch made" Metropolis. This is nearing 18,000 miles without a grumble.

They are simple and tough, with more useable space and better ground clearance than the Discovery Sport. My boys love the low window / high seating combination in the back which is lacking in the Evoque etc.

They're very popular up here in rural North Yorkshire, and understandably so.

Trevor450

1,936 posts

178 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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My neighbour has a '09 HSE and has never had an issue in the 100k or so that he has put on it in the last few years.

SimesJH

768 posts

181 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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My parents are on their second FL2 with the Td4 engine and they've never had any problems at all in around 5 years of FL2 ownership.


rongagin

Original Poster:

481 posts

166 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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Thanks for the feedback. If I buy from LR they are giving a 2 year warranty, this is peace of mind I suppose. From what you are saying it seems they are reliable in all areas. BUT if problems do arise where do they occur?

Software seems to be mentioned when googling about. Also is the rear diff problems a long gone thing of the past? This is my first 4x4 (except a 2 year stint in the Yemen with a Pajero) ownership and was thinking XC60 at first, but the Freelander seems more 'real' and down to earth.

Is paying main dealer premium worth while to get the 2yr warranty? Or buy elsewhere and independent? Looking around £18k max.


gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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I was looking at year old ones last December, £19/20k would get you into a 12 month example from an indy with 2 years factory warranty left on it.
A year old one from a main dealer was around £26k, so no, definitely not worth the premium.

gizlaroc

17,251 posts

254 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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Just looked on autotrader, looks like prices have shot up loads!!

I was looking at 63 plates HSE Luxs and 14 plate Metropolis' in Decemeber 14 for £19/20k. They all seems to be £22-28k now.


miniman

30,102 posts

292 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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mickyveloce said:
This is nearing 18,000 miles without a grumble.
Not much of a claim to fame, is it?

rongagin

Original Poster:

481 posts

166 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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gizlaroc said:
Just looked on autotrader, looks like prices have shot up loads!!

I was looking at 63 plates HSE Luxs and 14 plate Metropolis' in Decemeber 14 for £19/20k. They all seems to be £22-28k now.
The problem with having the same idea as lots of others I suppose, but why the sudden interest?☹

Is it worth while maybe buying an extended warranty from LR if I buy at say 3 yrs old? If so any ideas on the cost? Maybe £400 per year or more?

Cfnteabag

1,261 posts

226 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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The problems with the Freelander 1 blighting the name of the Freelander 2 is one of the reasons it is Discovery Sport and not Freelander 3.

The Freelander 1 was let down by the K Series engine and a drivetrain that was always fighting with itself and couldn't handle worn tyres.

The Freelander 2 was much improved and was push upmarket. It doesn't have as many complicated gadgets to go wrong like the bigger Land Rovers but does have better engines and drivetrain. I believe the centre diff is a Haldex.

Dont let the 1 cloud the judgement of the 2!

rongagin

Original Poster:

481 posts

166 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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Cfnteabag said:
The problems with the Freelander 1 blighting the name of the Freelander 2 is one of the reasons it is Discovery Sport and not Freelander 3.

The Freelander 1 was let down by the K Series engine and a drivetrain that was always fighting with itself and couldn't handle worn tyres.

The Freelander 2 was much improved and was push upmarket. It doesn't have as many complicated gadgets to go wrong like the bigger Land Rovers but does have better engines and drivetrain. I believe the centre diff is a Haldex.

Dont let the 1 cloud the judgement of the 2!
So your saying don't worry about breakdowns and warranties? The Freelander 2 is as good as pretty much any other car I suppose but when the likes of Warranty Wise (I know......) put it, LR anyway, at the bottom of the list for reliability, you do wonder lol.

Cfnteabag

1,261 posts

226 months

Monday 28th March 2016
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I am not saying that Land Rover has solved all its reliability issues, all I am saying is that Freelander 2 is more reliable than other Land Rovers and is just as reliable as any other car of the same age and type. They all have the same likelyhood of throwing a wobbler!

camel_landy

5,512 posts

213 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Freelander 2 - Cracking car...

TD4 (or SD4) Auto is the way to go.

M

rongagin

Original Poster:

481 posts

166 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Thank you for the replies, they are positive which is a bonus.

I do have another question though, looking at many FL2 they have a tow bar, not surprising, but buying 2nd hand you don't know what was towed? So the question is: how sensitive is the clutch and drivetrain to having been used for towing a heavy trailer? Is there any way beyond the obvious clutch bite and slip checks to be reasonably confident all is well?

mickyveloce

1,035 posts

266 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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rongagin said:
Thank you for the replies, they are positive which is a bonus.

I do have another question though, looking at many FL2 they have a tow bar, not surprising, but buying 2nd hand you don't know what was towed? So the question is: how sensitive is the clutch and drivetrain to having been used for towing a heavy trailer? Is there any way beyond the obvious clutch bite and slip checks to be reasonably confident all is well?
Not really, other than speaking to the previous owner if possible. The drivetrain is pretty resilient, and the car is designed to tow. Most will occasionally tow caravans and horse boxes on an occasional basis, so nothing to worry about really.

Depreciation is slow, and there is a good demand for the cars keeping prices high. We bought our 2006 car with 16k miles at three years old. Four years later and with an additional 60k miles, we got £10k trade in against the Metropolis, so very pleased.

rongagin

Original Poster:

481 posts

166 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Reading further it seems the auto box is preferred for towing and off-road due to the lack of low gear?

Also read the clutch plate is quite small for it's job. So auto may be a wise move?

I am learning so much from your comments, so thanks, any more?

camel_landy

5,512 posts

213 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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Don't bother with a manual, Auto is best... End of!

If you want to drive it manually, you can use 'Command-Shift' but frankly, you might as well just leave it in 'D'.

M

seany87

645 posts

200 months

Tuesday 29th March 2016
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mickyveloce said:
I think these are great cars. We did 60,000 trouble free miles in our 2006 2.2 SE manual, and replaced it with a "last batch made" Metropolis. This is nearing 18,000 miles without a grumble.

They are simple and tough, with more useable space and better ground clearance than the Discovery Sport. My boys love the low window / high seating combination in the back which is lacking in the Evoque etc.

They're very popular up here in rural North Yorkshire, and understandably so.
Sorry to chime in, but out of the Evoque, Disco Sport and FL2, the FL2 has the worst ground clearance would you believe.. 215mm Evoque, vs 212mm Disco Sport and vs 210mm FL2

Of course the ramp over and approach angle are better on the FL2. I prefer the Evoque to the FL2 off road however.

wilfandrowlf

603 posts

242 months

Monday 4th April 2016
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This topic makes interesting reading for me as I'm looking to get one soon.
I'm looking for auto (cus I'm lazy!) and like the idea of an HSE model because of all the toys, I recently drove one and I was very surprised at how refined it felt.
I will be towing a caravan (yes yes I know getmecoat) and the reviews I have read and owners I have spoken to, rate them as good tow cars.
I recently spoke to a LR specialist in Bristol and he told me they are actually pretty good overall if serviced correctly with the main weak spot being the rear diff / Haldex unit failure.

Apart from pushing all the buttons and driving it on a decent test drive for a good few miles, is there anything else to look out for?

My budget is around £12k which should get me a sub 100k mile HSE according to all the classifieds I've been trawling.

TIA wink