Hybrid SVA tests??
Hybrid SVA tests??
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burtie36

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1 posts

229 months

Sunday 31st December 2006
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Im in the middle of building a v8 landrover/tomcat hybrid on a rangrover chassis,its been shortend to 90 inchs,its going to use the origanal engine/box,axles,chassis,does it need an SVA test?

Furyous

25,180 posts

242 months

Sunday 31st December 2006
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Not if you retain the id of the original rangie chassis.Not really the legal way, but then SVA is just so ball achingly dull and hard work.

Ive never heard of a pedestrian being killed because the rear reflectors had the wrong radius on them, but thats the kind of bullshit you can fail an SVA on.

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greenlandy

1,635 posts

252 months

Sunday 31st December 2006
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To be perfectly legal you should have the shitty IMO SVA test. If it was me though I wouldn't bother as long as the insurance company no the mod's then you're covered.

bluespanner

3,383 posts

244 months

Sunday 31st December 2006
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Leave everything as 'Range Rover', or at least as far as V5, VIN, and number plate, and youll be fine. No SVA needed.

steve_d

13,800 posts

279 months

Sunday 31st December 2006
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Probably the only thing you will need to tell DVLA/C is that it has less doors (if it's 90" I'm assuming the rear doors have gone). You should get a new MOT even if the current one has not expired.

You must however tell the insurance company about all the mods. A kitcar insurance company would be better suited as they are well used to nut cases hacking perfectly good cars up to weld something new.

Steve

100SRV

2,303 posts

263 months

Monday 1st January 2007
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To be honest I would go through the process of SVA and re-registering your hybrid - I did with my Bowler 100 a year after building it. The main reason for doing it was that there was a particularly vindictive traffic police officer in the county who seemed to delight in nitpicking. I went through the process to ensure that there were as few loopholes as possible in the event of an accident / insurance claim - the V5, insurance certificate and MoT all match up; insurers are aware of what the car actually is so less chance of a rejected claim or voiding of insurance.

Step one is to ensure that you have used sufficient parts from the original registered donor to retain that number. Contact your DVLA office and apply for a change of identity, also get a copy of the requirements of the SVA test before submitting the vehicle. In my opinion getting a vehicle to pass an SVA test should be merely a formality, that said, my Bowler was built before the advent of SVA. It has never failed an MoT on construction and use items (only on a duff brake servo).

steve_d

13,800 posts

279 months

Monday 1st January 2007
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Following a link from the kitcar forum there are changes coming which will make things much tighter. Having said that this DVLA page indicates that if you have modified the chassis then you will require both SVA and a VIC inspection. It will most likely also result in a Q plate but I doubt that will concern you to much. The VIC you should do as soon as possible to ensure the parts you are using are kosher.
I believe SVA is a good thing. It makes sure that whatever we weld together has been done properly and that aspects like huge engines and puny brakes don't happen. If you do your build right then SVA should only be an expensive day out rather than a major hurdle.

I think you need to disregard my earlier (misguided) post that you need do nothing more than the V5 change.

Steve

v8dnw

102 posts

246 months

Sunday 11th February 2007
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I was under the impression that any "cut and shut" chassis would automatically fail an SVA test.

pugwash4x4

7,636 posts

242 months

Sunday 11th February 2007
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the only mod to the chassis which you can do is cut the rear overhang off (or the front). You are allowed to take something like 27cm from the back of a rangie. In this case, as long as you don't chage anything else then you can replace the body and do a "body conversion" which does not require an SVA as you are basically using the same vehicle

if you have to weld anything on the chassis then you need an SVA- this would include cutting bits out of the middle, moving body mounts, moving engine mounts, etc etc

cutting a chunk out of the middle is perfectly legal as long as it has been done to an acceptable level- indeed "cut and shuts" are perfectly legal as long as they go through SVA- the reason they are so dodgy is that most people do them to materially affect the value of a car!

if you are building a hybrid then it might be wise to think about putting the vehicle through as a commercial- there are rules to this (like you have to have a certain % of the car as load bed) and you can only have 2 seats, but a commercial test is significantly easier than a car test.

get over to forums.lr4x4.com and have a look at the "my vehicles" section. Les brock has just been through SVA with a hybrid and used the commercial rules.