Range Rover Sport
Discussion
I am needing to purchase a new family car and something with more seats that I currently have.
I am liking the Range Rover Sport but looking at the ads and in dealers there seem to be a few variations,
If anybody has the knowledge on the different models and types to briefly give some advise here it would be appreciated, I notice the V8 seems priced well but is that because they would be almost impossible to sell on second hand when there are 2.7 D HSE models on the market.
It seems the lowest prices are about 20K which would be the first models on the market which normally I would not reccomend getting as any issues may be sorted out on later models.
My budget would be around 20 to 35 K, I will spend 30 ish if I need to but if i can get the same car but with a few extra miles and a few years older for the nearer 20 K mark I would certainly consider it.
Hope to get some good advise
I am liking the Range Rover Sport but looking at the ads and in dealers there seem to be a few variations,
If anybody has the knowledge on the different models and types to briefly give some advise here it would be appreciated, I notice the V8 seems priced well but is that because they would be almost impossible to sell on second hand when there are 2.7 D HSE models on the market.
It seems the lowest prices are about 20K which would be the first models on the market which normally I would not reccomend getting as any issues may be sorted out on later models.
My budget would be around 20 to 35 K, I will spend 30 ish if I need to but if i can get the same car but with a few extra miles and a few years older for the nearer 20 K mark I would certainly consider it.
Hope to get some good advise
We've had our RR Sport for over 2 and a half years now, and it's been fine as the daily driver.
Ours is the 4.2 Supercharged version, which seems taken a depreciation hit from new. Needless to say we bought ours second hand, at a year old, for about half the price of a new one!
As far as models go, I'm not 100% on them (I'm sure someone can come along and correct any mistakes I've made.
There were the "First Edition" models - these usually appear to be the 4.2 S/C
Then the 2.7 V6 Diesel came along. Some say it's a little underpowered for such a heavy car. I have no personal experience of this - it's just what I've read/heard, so owners may disagree with this.
There was a 4.4 nautrally aspirated V8 available for a while - I'm not sure if it still is not though?
And then finally the 3.6 Twin Turbo V8 Diesel. Reviews I've read regard this as the best engine of the bunch. Not too much slower the 4.2 S/C (0-60 in 8.5 for the V8 Diesel vs. 7.1 for the S/C, IIRC).
Then you have the trim levels. Originally, it was just the RR Sport 4.2 S/C or 2.7 Diesel. Then when the 4.4 and 3.6 TT, the "HSE" trim level appeared. 4.2 S/C still did not/do not have an "HSE" badge, though. I assume the "HSE" designation came along because of the introduction of the "HST" model.
The HST appears to be a normal RR Sport, but with a body kit, square chrome exhaust tips and larger alloy wheels.
I don't know whether or not there's any other spec differences between HSE and HST, or if it purely denotes the difference in body styles.
This is the way I see it, but if I've made any errors, then other PHers will surely correct me.
Good luck with your search!
Darren
Ours is the 4.2 Supercharged version, which seems taken a depreciation hit from new. Needless to say we bought ours second hand, at a year old, for about half the price of a new one!
As far as models go, I'm not 100% on them (I'm sure someone can come along and correct any mistakes I've made.
There were the "First Edition" models - these usually appear to be the 4.2 S/C
Then the 2.7 V6 Diesel came along. Some say it's a little underpowered for such a heavy car. I have no personal experience of this - it's just what I've read/heard, so owners may disagree with this.
There was a 4.4 nautrally aspirated V8 available for a while - I'm not sure if it still is not though?
And then finally the 3.6 Twin Turbo V8 Diesel. Reviews I've read regard this as the best engine of the bunch. Not too much slower the 4.2 S/C (0-60 in 8.5 for the V8 Diesel vs. 7.1 for the S/C, IIRC).
Then you have the trim levels. Originally, it was just the RR Sport 4.2 S/C or 2.7 Diesel. Then when the 4.4 and 3.6 TT, the "HSE" trim level appeared. 4.2 S/C still did not/do not have an "HSE" badge, though. I assume the "HSE" designation came along because of the introduction of the "HST" model.
The HST appears to be a normal RR Sport, but with a body kit, square chrome exhaust tips and larger alloy wheels.
I don't know whether or not there's any other spec differences between HSE and HST, or if it purely denotes the difference in body styles.
This is the way I see it, but if I've made any errors, then other PHers will surely correct me.
Good luck with your search!
Darren
How big is the family? RRS aren't that big inside. I'd say it's more of a smart 2 adult cruiser. If you have a young or large family a Discovery 3 is a much better bet.
Depends on your mileage and what you want it to do. Only go for an HSE (check the MY as spec drops in and out with the model years.) TDV8 is a superb car, but with 12p/ltr difference between petrol and diesel, if I wasn't going to do massive mileage I'd go for a Supercharged edition. You'll get a good used deal I would have thought. As for the TDV6, there are loads out there.
Happy hunting.
G
Depends on your mileage and what you want it to do. Only go for an HSE (check the MY as spec drops in and out with the model years.) TDV8 is a superb car, but with 12p/ltr difference between petrol and diesel, if I wasn't going to do massive mileage I'd go for a Supercharged edition. You'll get a good used deal I would have thought. As for the TDV6, there are loads out there.
Happy hunting.
G
Just bought a 2.7 Tdi July 07 HSE with 14,000 miles off a main dealer for just over £31k.
You can probably pick them up cheaper elsewhere.
As said earlier, the latest Dico has more space internally and better air cond, as it has more room to circulate the air in - plus it usually has two extra fold away seats.
Try both for a decent test drive!
You can probably pick them up cheaper elsewhere.
As said earlier, the latest Dico has more space internally and better air cond, as it has more room to circulate the air in - plus it usually has two extra fold away seats.
Try both for a decent test drive!
My mate who works at a land rover dealership was telling me how a 56 plate 2.7 TDV6 HSE came in, good spec, 12k miles, one owner, etc...... guess how much they paid...... £19k 
If you are going to be buying one, then haggle hard cos' these babies are not shifting and dealers are getting really worried. The market is shagged and it really is a buyers market. L322's are going to the hammer at £6k FFS.
I've got an RS4 Cab, 08 plate, great spec, 3k miles, one owner, cost new £62k about 5 months ago..... was offered £35k p/x. And most dealers wouldn't even bid. Balls to them.... I'll run the bloody thing into the ground and won't buy another car for 10 years.
If you are going to be buying one, then haggle hard cos' these babies are not shifting and dealers are getting really worried. The market is shagged and it really is a buyers market. L322's are going to the hammer at £6k FFS.
I've got an RS4 Cab, 08 plate, great spec, 3k miles, one owner, cost new £62k about 5 months ago..... was offered £35k p/x. And most dealers wouldn't even bid. Balls to them.... I'll run the bloody thing into the ground and won't buy another car for 10 years.
There are lots examples of horrific trade-in values/dealer bids at the moment. I brought the wife a Disco 3 HSE new 2 years ago from an Official LR dealer. After lots of haggling, I brought the car for 39,250GBP. We recently thought about down sizing but decided to keep this Disco as it is very versitle and we like it much more than the New C Class estate we were thinking of replacing it with. The Trade-in value for the Disco 06/56 with 23K miles was 19K as of yesterday. Mercedes were offering 15% discount plus an extra 1000GBP to buy their car, effectively, 5,750GBP to change. I recond the trade value of the merc in a years time with 12K on the clock will be approx 17K. This is a 30K car at list!
With regard to the OP's question, You can now buy a 2008/08 Disco HSE Auto from a francise Stealer for approx 28-30K. If you plan to keep it for 3+ years, this offers Good value for a such a practical vehical that listed at 45K six months ago.
With regard to the OP's question, You can now buy a 2008/08 Disco HSE Auto from a francise Stealer for approx 28-30K. If you plan to keep it for 3+ years, this offers Good value for a such a practical vehical that listed at 45K six months ago.
Edited by David911RSR on Thursday 2nd October 11:39
Thanks for your replies,
There is four in the family hoping to be 5 in the not too distant future, the kids are 9 and 6.
For Boot space we dont carry too much but would want to get a pushchair in it later and also enough room for about 3 cases when we go away once a year.
It sounds bad and a bit snobbish but I consider the Range Rover to be more desirable than the Discovery and do buy cars partly based on that.
Maybe I do need to go and drive one and see if my opnion changes, The Range rover seems to have more road presence to me and looks nicer, sporty,etc
There is four in the family hoping to be 5 in the not too distant future, the kids are 9 and 6.
For Boot space we dont carry too much but would want to get a pushchair in it later and also enough room for about 3 cases when we go away once a year.
It sounds bad and a bit snobbish but I consider the Range Rover to be more desirable than the Discovery and do buy cars partly based on that.
Maybe I do need to go and drive one and see if my opnion changes, The Range rover seems to have more road presence to me and looks nicer, sporty,etc
Go for an HSE - the HST's chavvy bodykit does nothing for me!
Given current cost differential/premium for diesel, unless you do a lot of miles a V8 might not be such a bad option.
In 2.7 guise the diesel models hardly live up to their 'Sport' credentials and the V8 diesels stil seem to command a significant premium.
Given current cost differential/premium for diesel, unless you do a lot of miles a V8 might not be such a bad option.
In 2.7 guise the diesel models hardly live up to their 'Sport' credentials and the V8 diesels stil seem to command a significant premium.
[quote=Exigeowner]
There is four in the family hoping to be 5 in the not too distant future, the kids are 9 and 6.
If there is going to be 5 of you, you should consider the Disco as it has 3 full seats in the 1st rear row. In addition, the HSE comes with an independent built in entertainment system for 6 of the 7 seats.
There is four in the family hoping to be 5 in the not too distant future, the kids are 9 and 6.
If there is going to be 5 of you, you should consider the Disco as it has 3 full seats in the 1st rear row. In addition, the HSE comes with an independent built in entertainment system for 6 of the 7 seats.
[quote=Exigeowner]Thanks for your replies,
It sounds bad and a bit snobbish but I consider the Range Rover to be more desirable than the Discovery and do buy cars partly based on that.
I have to disagree as the Range Rover Sport is starting to suffer from an Image problem. This is largely due to many being "chav'ed" up by the "Max Power Body Kit Brigade" such as Kahn, Overfinch and others, who sell then to the Footballing and "rich Chav" community. Once the footballers wifes want to move on from their Rangies to the next motoring fashion Icon, the Want-a-be Wags or Mitchell Brothers look - a -likes take over.
It sounds bad and a bit snobbish but I consider the Range Rover to be more desirable than the Discovery and do buy cars partly based on that.
I have to disagree as the Range Rover Sport is starting to suffer from an Image problem. This is largely due to many being "chav'ed" up by the "Max Power Body Kit Brigade" such as Kahn, Overfinch and others, who sell then to the Footballing and "rich Chav" community. Once the footballers wifes want to move on from their Rangies to the next motoring fashion Icon, the Want-a-be Wags or Mitchell Brothers look - a -likes take over.
I guess I must be a bit of a chav then as the things you mentioned I like, Personally I think the word Chav is banded around far too often, It seems to me that its used for the Scum that often appear on Jeremy Kyle type progs and have little jobs or future but at the same time also for people with a bit of money that CAN afford nice things who like to be a bit of a show-off.
It seems to me the word is used far more for the type of people that CANT afford to buy the footballers wives cast offs.
Although its noted that you state the ones buying are the " rich chav" types
I think you can be a show off but still be fairly humble with it,
Anyway slightly off track and the advise and comments even about the Discovery are well received, enough that I will certainly take a better and harder look at them as a real possibility.
It seems to me the word is used far more for the type of people that CANT afford to buy the footballers wives cast offs.
Although its noted that you state the ones buying are the " rich chav" types
I think you can be a show off but still be fairly humble with it,
Anyway slightly off track and the advise and comments even about the Discovery are well received, enough that I will certainly take a better and harder look at them as a real possibility.
Edited by Exigeowner on Tuesday 30th September 16:49
Our RR Sport was actually owned by a footballer 
It also has Overfinch 22" wheels 
I wouldn't count Overfinch as a "Chavvy" brand though. More a proper tuner, and they offer decent upgrades, as well as having a good history of tuning Land Rovers.
Kahn, on the other hand, I would agree are a bit "Max Power-ish". They still cost a fortune though
Darren
It also has Overfinch 22" wheels I wouldn't count Overfinch as a "Chavvy" brand though. More a proper tuner, and they offer decent upgrades, as well as having a good history of tuning Land Rovers.
Kahn, on the other hand, I would agree are a bit "Max Power-ish". They still cost a fortune though
Darren
Exigeowner said:
Thanks for your replies,
There is four in the family hoping to be 5 in the not too distant future, the kids are 9 and 6.
For Boot space we dont carry too much but would want to get a pushchair in it later and also enough room for about 3 cases when we go away once a year.
It sounds bad and a bit snobbish but I consider the Range Rover to be more desirable than the Discovery and do buy cars partly based on that.
Maybe I do need to go and drive one and see if my opnion changes, The Range rover seems to have more road presence to me and looks nicer, sporty,etc
The RRS will be way too small, you will not be able to get a family of 5's gear in the back, let alone the weekly shop. The RRS has definitely more kerb appeal, but I feel head should rule over heart in this case. The Disco 3 is awesome, you will never wish you had never bought it, the 7 seats will be a blessing. Get in the factory fit DVD, rear aircon etc and you'll be well happy. If you don't feel the love, then may I suggest you look at a full size Range Rover, you can buy a nice V8 for less than £10k!There is four in the family hoping to be 5 in the not too distant future, the kids are 9 and 6.
For Boot space we dont carry too much but would want to get a pushchair in it later and also enough room for about 3 cases when we go away once a year.
It sounds bad and a bit snobbish but I consider the Range Rover to be more desirable than the Discovery and do buy cars partly based on that.
Maybe I do need to go and drive one and see if my opnion changes, The Range rover seems to have more road presence to me and looks nicer, sporty,etc
G
Edited by Triple7 on Tuesday 30th September 18:39
David911RSR said:
There are lots examples of horrific trade-in values/dealer bids at the moment. I brought the wife a Disco 3 HSE new 2 years ago from an Official LR dealer. After lots of haggling, I brought the car for 30,250GBP.
Man I was quite happy with my deal, but paid way too much! £38k 6 months ago for my HSE (Mind you I got £5k more than I expected for my trade in! Boo-hoo, especially as I wouldn't get more than £25k for it now. Not to worry, it's staying for a while!David911RSR said:
I brought the wife a Disco 3 HSE new 2 years ago from an Official LR dealer. After lots of haggling, I brought the car for 30,250GBP.
With regard to the OP's question, You can now buy a 2008/08 Disco HSE Auto from a francise Stealer for approx 28-30K. If you plan to keep it for 3+ years, this offers Good value for a such a practical vehical that listed at 45K six months ago.
Which LR dealer did you buy a HSE two years ago for £30,250, the list price was over £40,000 and I know LR don't have any where near 25% margin in their cars ?With regard to the OP's question, You can now buy a 2008/08 Disco HSE Auto from a francise Stealer for approx 28-30K. If you plan to keep it for 3+ years, this offers Good value for a such a practical vehical that listed at 45K six months ago.
Also can you show me some 2008/08 HSE auto's for £28-30K ? The cheapest on autotrader is £32,841 ?
In regard to the OP don't buy a RR Sport if you are planning to have 3 kids it will be too small, either get a discovery which is more usuable car than the sport, although not as "aesthetic". Or buy a proper RR which is much better than the sport and has much more interior space and make you look less like a drug dealer or footballer.
JohnnyHayward said:
David911RSR said:
I brought the wife a Disco 3 HSE new 2 years ago from an Official LR dealer. After lots of haggling, I brought the car for 30,250GBP.
With regard to the OP's question, You can now buy a 2008/08 Disco HSE Auto from a francise Stealer for approx 28-30K. If you plan to keep it for 3+ years, this offers Good value for a such a practical vehical that listed at 45K six months ago.
Which LR dealer did you buy a HSE two years ago for £30,250, the list price was over £40,000 and I know LR don't have any where near 25% margin in their cars ?With regard to the OP's question, You can now buy a 2008/08 Disco HSE Auto from a francise Stealer for approx 28-30K. If you plan to keep it for 3+ years, this offers Good value for a such a practical vehical that listed at 45K six months ago.
My mistake and post edited to say 39,250
Also can you show me some 2008/08 HSE auto's for £28-30K ? The cheapest on autotrader is £32,841 ?
I was speaking to my local dealer who offered me an 08/08 HSE Auto for 30K plus 1k over trade for my current Disco. Recon I could get a further 1k off as another poster has seen an 08/57 HSE Auto at a LR dealer for 28k
In regard to the OP don't buy a RR Sport if you are planning to have 3 kids it will be too small, either get a discovery which is more usuable car than the sport, although not as "aesthetic". Or buy a proper RR which is much better than the sport and has much more interior space and make you look less like a drug dealer or footballer.
David911RSR said:
JohnnyHayward said:
David911RSR said:
I brought the wife a Disco 3 HSE new 2 years ago from an Official LR dealer. After lots of haggling, I brought the car for 30,250GBP.
With regard to the OP's question, You can now buy a 2008/08 Disco HSE Auto from a francise Stealer for approx 28-30K. If you plan to keep it for 3+ years, this offers Good value for a such a practical vehical that listed at 45K six months ago.
Which LR dealer did you buy a HSE two years ago for £30,250, the list price was over £40,000 and I know LR don't have any where near 25% margin in their cars ?With regard to the OP's question, You can now buy a 2008/08 Disco HSE Auto from a francise Stealer for approx 28-30K. If you plan to keep it for 3+ years, this offers Good value for a such a practical vehical that listed at 45K six months ago.
My mistake and post edited to say 39,250
Also can you show me some 2008/08 HSE auto's for £28-30K ? The cheapest on autotrader is £32,841 ?
I was speaking to my local dealer who offered me an 08/08 HSE Auto for 30K plus 1k over trade for my current Disco. Recon I could get a further 1k off as another poster has seen an 08/57 HSE Auto at a LR dealer for 28k
In regard to the OP don't buy a RR Sport if you are planning to have 3 kids it will be too small, either get a discovery which is more usuable car than the sport, although not as "aesthetic". Or buy a proper RR which is much better than the sport and has much more interior space and make you look less like a drug dealer or footballer.
, I've owned a full size RR S/C, a RRS TDV8 (with DMS ECU upgrade) and now I'm in Disco 3 HSE and I absolutely love it
, it's true that parts of the interior aren't upto the same level as the RRS but mainly only the finish on some of the plastics, mine's an 08 MY and all the kit that matters, seats, entertainment, swithgear is the same as RRS as far as I can see but there's Loads more room. I'm 6'3" and always found the RRS a bit snug! The Disco's loads roomier and better for it IMHO. As for performance the 2.7 is a bit underpowered compared to the 3.6 but you could always have the ECU tweaked I paid c 45k for mine about 4 months ago although that included alot of extras plus I had it all colour coded (chavvy? I think it looks cool, a big black tonka toy! 
)Having had everything bar a Freelander I would thoroughly recommend the D3 especially with a sizeable family, I've not got kids but I have three woofers and they love it too, waggy tails all round when we're off in the tonka! (although it may be the walk at the other end they're looking forward to!!)
I'm also just about starting the leg work/research and looking into seeing if a Range Rover is for us.
Chances are we won't purchase until end of Feb next year. Partly because I figure that'll be a good time to buy
I'm not sure that the Sport is big enough and I've had a normal Vogue one as a insurance replacement car for a month previously and was impressed with comfort etc.
We'd want Auto. We'd be looking at a 3-4 yr old one (hopefully <30k miles) and probably to spend around £25k...though could go higher for the right vehicle.
Other than that (and I have had a quick scoot through at other threads),I'm not sure which engine to go for...which trim levels or whether petrol or diesel. So any pointers greatly received. If I planned to LPG convert (and I am not saying we will) one could only really go with Petrol?
Also info on service/tyre/brake costs and any known BIG issues would be appreciated. We plan to get rid of the wife's freelander (01 1.8 petrol and yes of course the head went pop at 45k miles and we had it rebuilt) and we've 3 dogs and just fancy something bigger with more comfort on longer drives. Fuel econonmy is not a massive issue...but it'd be nice to know what to expect.
Thanks in advance
Tom
Chances are we won't purchase until end of Feb next year. Partly because I figure that'll be a good time to buy
I'm not sure that the Sport is big enough and I've had a normal Vogue one as a insurance replacement car for a month previously and was impressed with comfort etc.
We'd want Auto. We'd be looking at a 3-4 yr old one (hopefully <30k miles) and probably to spend around £25k...though could go higher for the right vehicle.
Other than that (and I have had a quick scoot through at other threads),I'm not sure which engine to go for...which trim levels or whether petrol or diesel. So any pointers greatly received. If I planned to LPG convert (and I am not saying we will) one could only really go with Petrol?
Also info on service/tyre/brake costs and any known BIG issues would be appreciated. We plan to get rid of the wife's freelander (01 1.8 petrol and yes of course the head went pop at 45k miles and we had it rebuilt
) and we've 3 dogs and just fancy something bigger with more comfort on longer drives. Fuel econonmy is not a massive issue...but it'd be nice to know what to expect.Thanks in advance
Tom
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