Two questions on RR Series 3 (L322)
Discussion
Hi,
I am very close to putting in an offer on a 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4. I've always wanted one and have done my research, am ready to risk the potential ownership issues and have set aside a generous budget for problems that may arise.
However, I have a couple of questions I wanted some help from current L322 owners:
- Fuel consumption. A tanks must cost over £100 given its 100L size, how long (miles) does that last in a) round London driving b) motorway speeds c) 50/50 of a and b?
- Ride. The ride quality on the car in question is very good, but not 200% magical carpet. Is it missing something? I expected it to be ultra smooth even on poor surfaces, a bit like the old Citroens DS/CX.
Thanks!
I am very close to putting in an offer on a 2002 Range Rover Vogue 4.4. I've always wanted one and have done my research, am ready to risk the potential ownership issues and have set aside a generous budget for problems that may arise.
However, I have a couple of questions I wanted some help from current L322 owners:
- Fuel consumption. A tanks must cost over £100 given its 100L size, how long (miles) does that last in a) round London driving b) motorway speeds c) 50/50 of a and b?
- Ride. The ride quality on the car in question is very good, but not 200% magical carpet. Is it missing something? I expected it to be ultra smooth even on poor surfaces, a bit like the old Citroens DS/CX.
Thanks!
We don't do much town driving in ours but it does ~22mpg during motorway driving. The computer usually reckons something like 23.5 but is a little optimistic (not that it makes much difference!).
As for the ride, yes, it should be great but that's not to say you're isolated from everything on the road surface. The best bet would be to hitch a ride in a different one as a comparison. Bushes can start squeaking and wear out, but otherwise (as far as I know) suspension issues are very unlikely unless you manage to damage an air spring or something, but then the car ends up on its bumpstops rather than just with a worsened ride.
Enjoy it if you buy it!
Ruari
As for the ride, yes, it should be great but that's not to say you're isolated from everything on the road surface. The best bet would be to hitch a ride in a different one as a comparison. Bushes can start squeaking and wear out, but otherwise (as far as I know) suspension issues are very unlikely unless you manage to damage an air spring or something, but then the car ends up on its bumpstops rather than just with a worsened ride.
Enjoy it if you buy it!
Ruari
We've averaged about 20mpg combined in the last 30k, so really not to bad for a 2+ tonne beast with all the luxuries and the aerodynamics of a semi-detached house. Not had any problems at all (touch wood) and now up to 56k. Fuelling depends on where you live - I usually find the tank will take around 90-95l in a fill, so around £95, which for most usage will get us around 350miles or so. We do live out in the sticks so 50-70 motoring is more common than urban crawling, but saying that I do tend to drive it on the doorhandles and the V8 makes short work of overtaking escaped townies dawdling along or tractors.
Oh, RE the ride, what wheels is it sat on? From the few I have driven the ride (and handling) does seem to vary quite a bit between the different wheel sizes. We ended up on 19s which for us were the best compromise between handling and ride, the 18s were more pillowy, the 20s/22s were much, much firmer.
Also, it's worth bearing in mind like any air-sprung car, the ride at speed is far better than that around town - because air springs take a second to react, they will smooth over ripples and motorway bumps, however drop a corner into a pothole or draincover and they won't firm up in time so you do get a thump, often more so than with a similar steel-sprung car.
Also, it's worth bearing in mind like any air-sprung car, the ride at speed is far better than that around town - because air springs take a second to react, they will smooth over ripples and motorway bumps, however drop a corner into a pothole or draincover and they won't firm up in time so you do get a thump, often more so than with a similar steel-sprung car.
RedLeicester said:
Oh, RE the ride, what wheels is it sat on? From the few I have driven the ride (and handling) does seem to vary quite a bit between the different wheel sizes. We ended up on 19s which for us were the best compromise between handling and ride, the 18s were more pillowy, the 20s/22s were much, much firmer.
Also, it's worth bearing in mind like any air-sprung car, the ride at speed is far better than that around town - because air springs take a second to react, they will smooth over ripples and motorway bumps, however drop a corner into a pothole or draincover and they won't firm up in time so you do get a thump, often more so than with a similar steel-sprung car.
Thanks for that. Its sat on the 19"s, I agree they seem to be the best compromise, at least on paper (not having tried the other two sizes).Also, it's worth bearing in mind like any air-sprung car, the ride at speed is far better than that around town - because air springs take a second to react, they will smooth over ripples and motorway bumps, however drop a corner into a pothole or draincover and they won't firm up in time so you do get a thump, often more so than with a similar steel-sprung car.
Your description of the air springs goes a long way towards explaining exactly what I noted. At low speeds its not 'perfect' but when we hit 50mph the bumps in the road just dissapeared.
Have another couple booked tomorrow to compare. I really liked the one I saw and it drove very well, just want to make sure I'm doing the right choice. Its also reasonable priced at £12.9k for a 70k miles 2002, at least when looking at other ones on autotrader.
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