Couple of L322 questions
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Hi
I'm thinking of getting myself an L322 rangie, I'm looking at the lower end of the market so the early ones. But i'm a tad mystified by a few points
I was originally looking at p38's before I decided to up the budget and that was simple becuase the only viable option was an lpg'd petrol. But with the L322 it appears that the TDV6 is quite a good engine. Therefore is it worth me looking at both in my price range or is the does the petrol just suit the vehicle more?
What are the real differences between the HSE and the vogue. All I can fathom so far is the satnav, where there options unique to each type or does it really just depend what the original buyer ticked?
I'm thinking of getting myself an L322 rangie, I'm looking at the lower end of the market so the early ones. But i'm a tad mystified by a few points
I was originally looking at p38's before I decided to up the budget and that was simple becuase the only viable option was an lpg'd petrol. But with the L322 it appears that the TDV6 is quite a good engine. Therefore is it worth me looking at both in my price range or is the does the petrol just suit the vehicle more?
What are the real differences between the HSE and the vogue. All I can fathom so far is the satnav, where there options unique to each type or does it really just depend what the original buyer ticked?
matt12023 said:
Hi
I'm thinking of getting myself an L322 rangie, I'm looking at the lower end of the market so the early ones. But i'm a tad mystified by a few points
I was originally looking at p38's before I decided to up the budget and that was simple becuase the only viable option was an lpg'd petrol. But with the L322 it appears that the TDV6 is quite a good engine. Therefore is it worth me looking at both in my price range or is the does the petrol just suit the vehicle more?
What are the real differences between the HSE and the vogue. All I can fathom so far is the satnav, where there options unique to each type or does it really just depend what the original buyer ticked?
The L322 doesn't use the TDV6, this is Jaguar unit and is fitted to the Discovery 3, the L322 uses a BMW straight 6 which from what i've heard is a bit underpowered, depends what you want from it i suppose.I'm thinking of getting myself an L322 rangie, I'm looking at the lower end of the market so the early ones. But i'm a tad mystified by a few points
I was originally looking at p38's before I decided to up the budget and that was simple becuase the only viable option was an lpg'd petrol. But with the L322 it appears that the TDV6 is quite a good engine. Therefore is it worth me looking at both in my price range or is the does the petrol just suit the vehicle more?
What are the real differences between the HSE and the vogue. All I can fathom so far is the satnav, where there options unique to each type or does it really just depend what the original buyer ticked?
The L322 3.0 BMW diesel is the same engine you will find under the bonnet of an E39 530d, the E46 330d and the X5. In power terms, the engine is slightly de-rated when it comes from bmw which means it does not feel just as quick as the X5. This engine is by no means slow, however the TDV6 found in the discovery3 and the RRsport i feel could do with a few more ponies.
Spec wise, the Vogue has everything. Must have features like heated seats, steering wheel and front screen, very useful at the moment! It also comes with a venture cam, like a camcorder that displays on the screen but a completly useless toy. All the other bits 'n bobs include like SavNav, TV, cd/dvd changer etc.
Hope this helps..
Spec wise, the Vogue has everything. Must have features like heated seats, steering wheel and front screen, very useful at the moment! It also comes with a venture cam, like a camcorder that displays on the screen but a completly useless toy. All the other bits 'n bobs include like SavNav, TV, cd/dvd changer etc.
Hope this helps..
galenthe2nd said:
The L322 3.0 BMW diesel is the same engine you will find under the bonnet of an E39 530d, the E46 330d and the X5. In power terms, the engine is slightly de-rated when it comes from bmw which means it does not feel just as quick as the X5. This engine is by no means slow, however the TDV6 found in the discovery3 and the RRsport i feel could do with a few more ponies.
Spec wise, the Vogue has everything. Must have features like heated seats, steering wheel and front screen, very useful at the moment! It also comes with a venture cam, like a camcorder that displays on the screen but a completly useless toy. All the other bits 'n bobs include like SavNav, TV, cd/dvd changer etc.
Hope this helps..
The venture cam doesn't come on the year of RR he is looking at.Spec wise, the Vogue has everything. Must have features like heated seats, steering wheel and front screen, very useful at the moment! It also comes with a venture cam, like a camcorder that displays on the screen but a completly useless toy. All the other bits 'n bobs include like SavNav, TV, cd/dvd changer etc.
Hope this helps..
galenthe2nd said:
Spec wise, the Vogue has everything. Must have features like heated seats, steering wheel and front screen, very useful at the moment! It also comes with a venture cam, like a camcorder that displays on the screen but a completly useless toy. All the other bits 'n bobs include like SavNav, TV, cd/dvd changer etc.
Hope this helps..
Venture Cam was only on 2006 MY and later cars, but I'm intrigued by the 'SavNav' you have on yours? Is this some sort of 'streetwise' filter? Hope this helps..
galenthe2nd said:
Spec wise, the Vogue has everything. Must have features like heated seats, steering wheel and front screen, very useful at the moment! It also comes with a venture cam, like a camcorder that displays on the screen but a completly useless toy. All the other bits 'n bobs include like SavNav, TV, cd/dvd changer etc.
Hope this helps..
Spec wise, my 2003 HSE has heated front seats and a heated front screen.Hope this helps..
kVA said:
galenthe2nd said:
Spec wise, the Vogue has everything. Must have features like heated seats, steering wheel and front screen, very useful at the moment! It also comes with a venture cam, like a camcorder that displays on the screen but a completly useless toy. All the other bits 'n bobs include like SavNav, TV, cd/dvd changer etc.
Hope this helps..
Venture Cam was only on 2006 MY and later cars, but I'm intrigued by the 'SavNav' you have on yours? Is this some sort of 'streetwise' filter? Hope this helps..
galenthe2nd said:
kVA said:
galenthe2nd said:
Spec wise, the Vogue has everything. Must have features like heated seats, steering wheel and front screen, very useful at the moment! It also comes with a venture cam, like a camcorder that displays on the screen but a completly useless toy. All the other bits 'n bobs include like SavNav, TV, cd/dvd changer etc.
Hope this helps..
Venture Cam was only on 2006 MY and later cars, but I'm intrigued by the 'SavNav' you have on yours? Is this some sort of 'streetwise' filter? Hope this helps..
Hopefully look at my first L322 tomorrow, had a look at a p38 today, only a 6k one. Tidy car though, not too many miles (97k) good nick for its age. Far more user luxuries than my classic.
This has got me thinking will a cheap L322 11-13k ish, which will no doubt have more mileage, be 5-7k better/different for me to go in that direction instead of getting a p38.
Therefore slightly higher mileage L322 worth the extra money over a lower mileage p38?
I am aware of the many many problems that p38's can suffer from
This has got me thinking will a cheap L322 11-13k ish, which will no doubt have more mileage, be 5-7k better/different for me to go in that direction instead of getting a p38.
Therefore slightly higher mileage L322 worth the extra money over a lower mileage p38?
I am aware of the many many problems that p38's can suffer from
matt12023 said:
Hopefully look at my first L322 tomorrow, had a look at a p38 today, only a 6k one. Tidy car though, not too many miles (97k) good nick for its age. Far more user luxuries than my classic.
This has got me thinking will a cheap L322 11-13k ish, which will no doubt have more mileage, be 5-7k better/different for me to go in that direction instead of getting a p38.
Therefore slightly higher mileage L322 worth the extra money over a lower mileage p38?
I am aware of the many many problems that p38's can suffer from
Personally i would avoid both. If its a Range Rover you really want. Then try and budget a bit more and go for as late a car as possible. The age you are looking at is when most parts start to fail with wear and tear,and these are not cheap cars to repair.This has got me thinking will a cheap L322 11-13k ish, which will no doubt have more mileage, be 5-7k better/different for me to go in that direction instead of getting a p38.
Therefore slightly higher mileage L322 worth the extra money over a lower mileage p38?
I am aware of the many many problems that p38's can suffer from
matt12023 said:
Hmm choices already with lpg are very limited, I might widen the search to just petrol as well with a view to maybe converting down the line, though the distances I drive a year (7k-10k) it'd probably take a while to recoupe.
I may well look into raising the budget
Absolutely no point in going LPG at that mileage - it will take at least 5 years to get your money back on a professional conversion (and that's assuming no future Government actually notices that LPG is not exactly environmentally friendly and starts increasing fuel duty on it). A quick calculation suggests that a 4.4 will use about £2000 more fuel (at todays prices) than a TD6 over 3 years and 24,000 miles, so just spend £2000 less on a V8 (should be easily done) and enjoy the performance, refinement and cleanliness of a Range Rover as it was always intended to be... I may well look into raising the budget
That's something I have been thinking about ( and need to do the maths on)
I will do about 8k miles in a RR per year and am considering either a supercharged or a TDV8....
Thoughts in my head are firstly which would be the cheaper option on fuel (not a major issue really if I'm honest)
and which will lose more buckets of cash due to government 4x4 bashing and people's perception?
I have no issue with spending 2k less on a supercharged and knowing all comes in about the same on cost of ownership but the TDV8 (or other diesels) would surely be far easier to sell and retain more value after 3 years?
I will do about 8k miles in a RR per year and am considering either a supercharged or a TDV8....
Thoughts in my head are firstly which would be the cheaper option on fuel (not a major issue really if I'm honest)
and which will lose more buckets of cash due to government 4x4 bashing and people's perception?
I have no issue with spending 2k less on a supercharged and knowing all comes in about the same on cost of ownership but the TDV8 (or other diesels) would surely be far easier to sell and retain more value after 3 years?
Supercharger loses more in the first 2-3 years, but depreciation is about the same proportionately after that.
In terms of fuel consumption, S/C will average about 16 mpg if driven the same way as a TDV8 getting about 22-23 mpg - so less than £2,000 difference over 3 years @ 8,000 pa.
Just checked on the LR Approved Used Car site and the Superchargers seem to be holding their value at least as well as the TDV8s! They are also in very short supply, so I don't think you'll lose out on depreciation compared to a TDV8. OK, so you are not going to get like-for-like for £2,000 less than a TDV8, but the Superchargers date back to 2005, whereas as TDV8 started late 2006/early 2007, so you can get a S/C for £2,000 less than a TDV8 that way.
To be honest, if you drive both, I think you would be happy to pay £60 per month more on fuel even if it did cost the same to buy - I would (and did)
In terms of fuel consumption, S/C will average about 16 mpg if driven the same way as a TDV8 getting about 22-23 mpg - so less than £2,000 difference over 3 years @ 8,000 pa.
Just checked on the LR Approved Used Car site and the Superchargers seem to be holding their value at least as well as the TDV8s! They are also in very short supply, so I don't think you'll lose out on depreciation compared to a TDV8. OK, so you are not going to get like-for-like for £2,000 less than a TDV8, but the Superchargers date back to 2005, whereas as TDV8 started late 2006/early 2007, so you can get a S/C for £2,000 less than a TDV8 that way.
To be honest, if you drive both, I think you would be happy to pay £60 per month more on fuel even if it did cost the same to buy - I would (and did)
Just a quick update, I looked at a fair few rangies and decided that the one that i'd really like is out of my price range at the moment.
Therefore i've bought a 110 defender as i've always loved them but had never got round to owning one myself
i'll return to rangies when i can get the one I want as oppose to spending a lot of money but still settling. thank you all for the advice
Therefore i've bought a 110 defender as i've always loved them but had never got round to owning one myself
i'll return to rangies when i can get the one I want as oppose to spending a lot of money but still settling. thank you all for the advice
matt12023 said:
Just a quick update, I looked at a fair few rangies and decided that the one that i'd really like is out of my price range at the moment.
Therefore i've bought a 110 defender as i've always loved them but had never got round to owning one myself
i'll return to rangies when i can get the one I want as oppose to spending a lot of money but still settling. thank you all for the advice
What spec was the defender??. Completely different vehicles. But the Defender will be an easier job to live with reliability wise.Therefore i've bought a 110 defender as i've always loved them but had never got round to owning one myself
i'll return to rangies when i can get the one I want as oppose to spending a lot of money but still settling. thank you all for the advice
BLUETHUNDER said:
matt12023 said:
Just a quick update, I looked at a fair few rangies and decided that the one that i'd really like is out of my price range at the moment.
Therefore i've bought a 110 defender as i've always loved them but had never got round to owning one myself
i'll return to rangies when i can get the one I want as oppose to spending a lot of money but still settling. thank you all for the advice
What spec was the defender??. Completely different vehicles. But the Defender will be an easier job to live with reliability wise.Therefore i've bought a 110 defender as i've always loved them but had never got round to owning one myself
i'll return to rangies when i can get the one I want as oppose to spending a lot of money but still settling. thank you all for the advice
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