09TDV8 or 07SC
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dubbs

Original Poster:

1,599 posts

308 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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So.... breaking the bank for the 09 but affordable for the 07 but which is best value....

Both main dealer cars:

07 Supercharged is £37995 before negotiation

09 TDV8 Vogue SE spec £54995 before negotiation

Or are both horribly overpriced?

90 B

654 posts

226 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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Get the 07 Supercharged.

Much more car for the money and would sound great. I personally dislike Diesels and you can't beat the V8 PETROL rumble.


Jem0911

4,415 posts

225 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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What's the miles on the SC?
I was considering a 55 plate for under £20k with just over 90k miles?

clorenzen

3,814 posts

259 months

Thursday 18th February 2010
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The TDV8. That engine suits the car much better than the SC V8 which makes a nice noise but is not that much quicker and requires an oil well in the backyard.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

269 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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So you get 4mpg extra from the TDV8, but pay 20k less to buy it..... not a tricky set of sums.

S/C all the way.

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

251 months

Friday 19th February 2010
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£17k buys an awful lot of petrol.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

269 months

Saturday 20th February 2010
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Rocksteadyeddie said:
£17k buys an awful lot of petrol.
Precisely.

rejn

2,018 posts

246 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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dubbs said:
07 Supercharged is £37995 before negotiation

09 TDV8 Vogue SE spec £54995 before negotiation
Seems an odd comparison - why not an 09 petrol-v-diesel or 07 petrol-v-diesel - or are you just looking at the cars the dealer has in stock?

ilaishley

167 posts

265 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Agree with the previous post. A very strange comparison. The only fair way if price is the issue is to compare same age vehicles. To say 17k is a lot to spend on fuel is a frivolous argument because when the car is sold in say a couple of years time the 09 TDV8 will be worth a hell of a lot more than an 07 SC. Vehicle ownership is all about what I call the exit cost, that being the total cost of ownership during you time in the car : Purchase cost, insurance, tax, fuel, servicing less sale cost. Only then do you get the true running costs. It was proved a few years ago that running a new ford mondeo vs a Lambo that the total running costs were almost identical, due solely on the fact that the lambo's rarity led it to appreciate in value over the year. (this I believe was a national paper that physically did it as apposed to playing number games) They even factored in the finance costs.

I know there are two sides to the fuel debate. Quite rightly someone pointed out to me in a similar debate that a few MPG shouldn't be a deciding factor when you are in this level of vehicle. But it can be worth noting that the difference between TDV8 and SC is actually more likely to be at least 6 mpg. Over 15000 miles per year. Thats approx £1030 more in fuel. Doesn't seem to bad until you realise that ( and I assume if you can afford this vehicle you are 40% tax + 11% NI) you need to earn £2114 to be able to pay for that difference. It starts to add up.

If you're lucky enough to not have to worry about the odd couple of grand then SC all the way.

dubbs

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1,599 posts

308 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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I was interested to see which represented best value for money... If the 09 was a steal at the price for example but the supercharged overpriced

I was due to test drive both, the 2007 was 1 owner, 36000 miles and sold and serviced by the dealer who has just sold another brand new one to the guy and this is his trade in.

The car is spotless and was awesome on the test drive...

I bought it biggrin

Jem0911

4,415 posts

225 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Well played that man.
Post up pics.

RedLeicester

6,869 posts

269 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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Yay, a wise and fine choice!

kVA

2,460 posts

229 months

Monday 22nd February 2010
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You did the right thing...

Supercharged is awesome and I actually did a like for like comparison with mine... I followed someone driving a TDV8 flat out in my S/C and, guess what, there was about 3mpg difference in fuel consumption because I didn't have to work the engine anywhere near as hard smile

Only reason for choosing diesel is to do loads of really heavy towing (like 3 tonnes +) or for extreme off-road use (i.e. steep rocky climbs, where you need loads of torque at very low speed).

Rocksteadyeddie

7,971 posts

251 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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Good man. A V8 petrol is always the right choice*

Let's see it then....



*unless a V10 or V12 petrol is the alternative

ilaishley

167 posts

265 months

Tuesday 23rd February 2010
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So what price did you manage to get them down to, or is that like asking a girl her age?

dubbs

Original Poster:

1,599 posts

308 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Will post u p pics when I pick it up on Saturday :-)

Jem0911

4,415 posts

225 months

Thursday 25th February 2010
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Don't pay for the Bluetooth upgrade robbing buggers!!
Get them to include it!