Opinions on this one please
Opinions on this one please
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Grandad Gaz

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5,261 posts

270 months

Monday 2nd August 2010
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What would be your advice on this Series be?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1901083.htm

I'm unable to do anything about it this year (far too much happening in my life at the moment) but, some time in 2011 I hope to buy something like this. I like the idea of a modern diesel as well as a fully sorted body and chassis!

Thanks smile

C Lee Farquar

4,196 posts

240 months

Monday 2nd August 2010
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I guess it would cost you more to do the work done than the cost of the vehicle, but on the downside it's no longer original and therefore has a limited classic value. I think it would ideally suit the kind of person who would like to use a Series Landy as a daily driver, as long as they weren't a rivet counter.

West4x4

672 posts

196 months

Monday 2nd August 2010
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Looks nice only thin i noticed is i has an earlier front set up with lights in rad panel when they should be in the wings. But otherwise looks good i must admit i'd rather a tdi than the mazda engine

anonymous-user

78 months

Monday 2nd August 2010
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West4x4 said:
Looks nice only thin i noticed is i has an earlier front set up with lights in rad panel when they should be in the wings.
Hardly a deal-breaker. UK-spec wagons kept the inner headlights until late '69, and bearing in mind it's a military 109 it probably picked up the 1971 reg when it was demobbed.
Quite rare really, just a pity it's not original in both power plant and body spec.

thescamper

920 posts

250 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Crossflow Kid said:
West4x4 said:
Looks nice only thin i noticed is i has an earlier front set up with lights in rad panel when they should be in the wings.
Hardly a deal-breaker. UK-spec wagons kept the inner headlights until late '69, and bearing in mind it's a military 109 it probably picked up the 1971 reg when it was demobbed.
Quite rare really, just a pity it's not original in both power plant and body spec.
Am I missing something but whats not original about the body spec?


varsas

4,073 posts

226 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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thescamper said:
Crossflow Kid said:
West4x4 said:
Looks nice only thin i noticed is i has an earlier front set up with lights in rad panel when they should be in the wings.
Hardly a deal-breaker. UK-spec wagons kept the inner headlights until late '69, and bearing in mind it's a military 109 it probably picked up the 1971 reg when it was demobbed.
Quite rare really, just a pity it's not original in both power plant and body spec.
Am I missing something but whats not original about the body spec?
I expect he means that it has civilian bumpers, no side steps, the roof isn't right etc etc. It's possible it's a civilian spec military vehicle...but then it's not military spec, is it. Anyway the roof is still wrong (I believe).

300bhp/ton

41,030 posts

214 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Crossflow Kid said:
West4x4 said:
Looks nice only thin i noticed is i has an earlier front set up with lights in rad panel when they should be in the wings.
Hardly a deal-breaker. UK-spec wagons kept the inner headlights until late '69, and bearing in mind it's a military 109 it probably picked up the 1971 reg when it was demobbed.
Quite rare really, just a pity it's not original in both power plant and body spec.
It could also be that it has been cobbled together from parts and a V5 to make it a pre 73, ie tax exempt vehicle?

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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varsas said:
thescamper said:
Crossflow Kid said:
West4x4 said:
Looks nice only thin i noticed is i has an earlier front set up with lights in rad panel when they should be in the wings.
Hardly a deal-breaker. UK-spec wagons kept the inner headlights until late '69, and bearing in mind it's a military 109 it probably picked up the 1971 reg when it was demobbed.
Quite rare really, just a pity it's not original in both power plant and body spec.
Am I missing something but whats not original about the body spec?
I expect he means that it has civilian bumpers, no side steps, the roof isn't right etc etc. It's possible it's a civilian spec military vehicle...but then it's not military spec, is it. Anyway the roof is still wrong (I believe).
Yep, in original military spec it'd have a rag top.
The front sidelights are the military layout though (vertically stacked) suggesting it started out olive green.

Grandad Gaz

Original Poster:

5,261 posts

270 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Interesting thoughts there, thanks!

Would I be better going for something like this then?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1924334.htm

Probably ending up costing a fair bit, though.

West4x4

672 posts

196 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Look harder find something with MOT when they say it only needs a couple of jobs for MOT i always think theres more to be found out. Find a decent MOT'd truck and get someone to put in a 200tdi or do it yourself. As to the original one it could well be a demobbed date of 71 should still have the earlier date of manufacture on the V5. My 1952 80 inch series 1 was registered on a 1962 plate in 1978!! Either the owner is trying to pull one or he just doesn't know what he has. Its not a 1 ton either that would be a 6 pot originally with a low ratio gearing and sailsbury axles. Thats a standard military 109 it has the drop spring mounts of the 1 tons but thats all means you can fit huge tyres tho

anonymous-user

78 months

Tuesday 3rd August 2010
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Grandad Gaz said:
Interesting thoughts there, thanks!

Would I be better going for something like this then?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1924334.htm

Probably ending up costing a fair bit, though.
That's a bit more like it. Pretty little SII. Looks solid enough, and unlike so many it hasn't been fettled, fitted with big knobbly tyres, a V8 and a scaffold roll cage.
The jobs listed are what I'd consider running maintenance on a LR that age, and I suspect the MOT could be a bit of a lottery, based solely on the vehicle's age.
And they all end up costing a fair bit, but look at it this way. What would you feel more agrived about? Spend an afternoon easing up the windscreen wiper linkage on a four-decade old Series using some grease you had at the back of the garage then reward yourself with a nice cup of tea, or paying a dealer £800 to "diagnose" the same thing on a year-old Disco 3, wait weeks for a new sealed unit part to arrive from China, have Land Rover deny it's a warranty item so spend another £800 for them to fit it, then reward yourself with a long string of letters to LR Customer Services?

Grandad Gaz

Original Poster:

5,261 posts

270 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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Crossflow Kid said:
Grandad Gaz said:
Interesting thoughts there, thanks!

Would I be better going for something like this then?

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1924334.htm

Probably ending up costing a fair bit, though.
That's a bit more like it. Pretty little SII. Looks solid enough, and unlike so many it hasn't been fettled, fitted with big knobbly tyres, a V8 and a scaffold roll cage.
The jobs listed are what I'd consider running maintenance on a LR that age, and I suspect the MOT could be a bit of a lottery, based solely on the vehicle's age.
And they all end up costing a fair bit, but look at it this way. What would you feel more agrived about? Spend an afternoon easing up the windscreen wiper linkage on a four-decade old Series using some grease you had at the back of the garage then reward yourself with a nice cup of tea, or paying a dealer £800 to "diagnose" the same thing on a year-old Disco 3, wait weeks for a new sealed unit part to arrive from China, have Land Rover deny it's a warranty item so spend another £800 for them to fit it, then reward yourself with a long string of letters to LR Customer Services?
Well, bought it!

I had no intention of doing so but could not say no smile

It seems very original (in my inexperienced eye). MOT till next June. The 2.25 petrol engine started first time and ran very well. No smoke and sounded better than expected.

Also comes with a spare bonnet, screen and a complete hard top. All in all I,m pretty pleased with it. At £850 I don't think I can go far wrong (he says hopefully)

The thing that really clinched it was location. It was less than 1/2 mile from my house!

Thanks for all your help thumbup

cpas

1,661 posts

264 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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Congratulations and enjoy it.

The link doesn't work any more but I'm sure it will be OK.

The one on the previous link seemed a bit pricey!!

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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The one in the previous link was no way military spec. Outside fuel filler,Civi lights,and un-military underseal underneath. All point to it never being m.o.d spec.

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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BLUETHUNDER said:
The one in the previous link was no way military spec. Outside fuel filler,Civi lights,and un-military underseal underneath. All point to it never being m.o.d spec.
I wouldn't go as far as saying "no way". It's a bit pick'n'mix admittedly, but there are as many military signs as there are civvy. The sidelights are indicators are vertically arranged for example - a military trade mark. It's probably collected parts of various vehicles over the years.

BLUETHUNDER

7,881 posts

284 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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They are not military lights full stop!. It would have the screw in glass type of that period. All military spec LR,s had underseat fuel tanks with a change over tap located on the seat base. The undersealing is not of military spec. Its very thin. Quite obvious in the picture.

Edited by BLUETHUNDER on Thursday 5th August 21:28

anonymous-user

78 months

Thursday 5th August 2010
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S'got mil spec sidelight/indicator arrangement though.tongue out
Like I said, pick'n'mix I reckon, so granted the "military spec" of the advert is a bit imaginative.

C Lee Farquar

4,196 posts

240 months

Friday 6th August 2010
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Grandad Gaz said:
Well, bought it!
Not really in line with forum tradition, is it? Accepted form is to procrastinate for months, dismiss cars that perfectly fit your requirements and be berated incessantly by other posters.

If everyone goes out and just buys cars the forum will stagnate and become a duller place.

Looks like a good choice, like you say I don't see how you can go far wrong with it. smile