LSE turning circle

[DonkeyApple]

Quick question. My LSE has the quick rack steering (or whatever it is called) that came from Overfinch, but I believe is just the same system that many others have.

The turning circle on the LSE is shocking compared to a normal Classic.

The question is: Is this because of the steering rack or that it is an LSE?

TIA

[Bish]

The quick ratio steering box is bought in from Adwest Engineering by Overfinch, I had one on mine. It does not alter the turning circle if I remember correctly.

Is something to do with the slightly different wheels and tyres on yours maybe?? You could always fit spacers and then adjust the steering stops to increase the angle of the wheel.

Cheers Bish

[DonkeyApple]

Bish said:

The quick ratio steering box is bought in from Adwest Engineering by Overfinch, I had one on mine. It does not alter the turning circle if I remember correctly.

Is something to do with the slightly different wheels and tyres on yours maybe?? You could always fit spacers and then adjust the steering stops to increase the angle of the wheel.

Cheers Bish

I knew it began with an 'A' but couldn't recall the company.

I don't think it's wheels or tyres as I'm now running with some 205 winter tyres on Disco rims.

I couldn't see why it would be the extra length in the chassis, other than the obvious fractional loss and was kind of thinking that it must the box. Which is a shame as Project X would be best with one but not at the loss of what is a brilliant turning circle on these cars.

Incidentally, I went up to Coventry yesterday and had a drive around in 'the' Landie as a trial for Project X. It was shocking I left somewhat depressed as I knew I needed to go ahead with the plan

[CraigVmax]

project x, tell all ?

[DonkeyApple]

CraigVmax said:

project x, tell all ?

Technically, it's project Y as X is already underway and involves a TVR.

Project Y is a restored 2 door Rangie converted to Zulu spec

[JimexPL]

DonkeyApple said:

Bish said:

The quick ratio steering box is bought in from Adwest Engineering by Overfinch, I had one on mine. It does not alter the turning circle if I remember correctly.

Is something to do with the slightly different wheels and tyres on yours maybe?? You could always fit spacers and then adjust the steering stops to increase the angle of the wheel.

Cheers Bish

I knew it began with an 'A' but couldn't recall the company.

I don't think it's wheels or tyres as I'm now running with some 205 winter tyres on Disco rims.

I couldn't see why it would be the extra length in the chassis, other than the obvious fractional loss and was kind of thinking that it must the box. Which is a shame as Project X would be best with one but not at the loss of what is a brilliant turning circle on these cars.

Incidentally, I went up to Coventry yesterday and had a drive around in 'the' Landie as a trial for Project X. It was shocking I left somewhat depressed as I knew I needed to go ahead with the plan

The lock stops are often generously adjusted for clearance. Get underneath with a couple of spanners and wind the threads in a bit.

[CraigVmax]

DonkeyApple said:

CraigVmax said:

project x, tell all ?

Technically, it's project Y as X is already underway and involves a TVR.

Project Y is a restored 2 door Rangie converted to Zulu spec

x sounds awesome, wtf is Y!!??

[DonkeyApple]

CraigVmax said:

DonkeyApple said:

CraigVmax said:

project x, tell all ?

Technically, it's project Y as X is already underway and involves a TVR.

Project Y is a restored 2 door Rangie converted to Zulu spec

x sounds awesome, wtf is Y!!??

This: http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/defender/the-je-qzu...

But in an old Rangie.

I've got no timetable for it yet really and need to source a descent 2 door first which is proving difficult.

Project X isn't a Rangie by the way just a resto on an interesting TVR.

[CraigVmax]

sounds brill, any idea how it will look? very offroady or stealth?

[DonkeyApple]

CraigVmax said:

sounds brill, any idea how it will look? very offroady or stealth?

You won't see anything, it'll resempble a bog standard 70s 2 door, with the exception of the wheels which will need to be more modern to cope.

I love the Overfinch but it's crude, using a yank lump that barely exceeds 50bhp per litre, so I like the concept of a modern version using latest technology, wrapped in a shell of 70s style. Oh, and an additional 150 BHP

[CraigVmax]

great idea, I like it a lot. CSK's always did it for me, I like the 2 door cars.

[CraigVmax]

nommy nommy

[DonkeyApple]

Won't be a CSK though, too many electrics. I'm going right back to basics. It'll look like this:

Edited by DonkeyApple on Thursday 16th December 16:35

[CraigVmax]

yah v cool, my dad had one of the 1st in 1970.

Be good if ()bit like paul stephens does with the 911 fuch replica wheels) you could have rostyle lookalikes that take bigger and better rubber.

[DonkeyApple]

CraigVmax said:

yah v cool, my dad had one of the 1st in 1970.

Be good if ()bit like paul stephens does with the 911 fuch replica wheels) you could have rostyle lookalikes that take bigger and better rubber.

That's the plan. Try and make them look a similar as possible.

Aiming to start the project next winter subject to a suitable vehicle being found.

[CraigVmax]

cool, keep us updated, love stuff like this.

[jdw1234]

Will Sir be needing to sell the Overfinch?

[JimexPL]

DonkeyApple said:

CraigVmax said:

DonkeyApple said:

CraigVmax said:

project x, tell all ?

Technically, it's project Y as X is already underway and involves a TVR.
Project Y is a restored 2 door Rangie converted to Zulu spec

x sounds awesome, wtf is Y!!??

This: http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/defender/the-je-qzu...
But in an old Rangie.
I've got no timetable for it yet really and need to source a descent 2 door first which is proving difficult.

Why are JE using the 4.2 rather than the new 5.0?

Keeping with simplicity, wouldn't an LS7 on carbs be more suited to your build?

Interesting project!

[DonkeyApple]

jdw1234 said:

Will Sir be needing to sell the Overfinch?

I suspect it will become surplus to requirements, sadly. Plus, there are storage issues as I live in central London and have a limited amount of garage space.

I wouldn't do this project if it were to result in something that for me isn't far superior to the Finchy, so I guess it will be up for sale.

[DonkeyApple]

JimexPL said:

DonkeyApple said:

CraigVmax said:

DonkeyApple said:

CraigVmax said:

project x, tell all ?

Technically, it's project Y as X is already underway and involves a TVR.
Project Y is a restored 2 door Rangie converted to Zulu spec

x sounds awesome, wtf is Y!!??

This: http://www.jeengineering.co.uk/defender/the-je-qzu...
But in an old Rangie.
I've got no timetable for it yet really and need to source a descent 2 door first which is proving difficult.

Why are JE using the 4.2 rather than the new 5.0?

Keeping with simplicity, wouldn't an LS7 on carbs be more suited to your build?

Interesting project!

Not sure as to why the 4.2 0r 4.4 v the newer 5. I suspect there is a logical answer. Possibly, you can't buy the 5 without a free car being attached at present, or the there hasbeen significant development cost sunk into the former so it isn't cost effective to ditch and start again. Someone like Bish may know more.

Re the LS route, it's a personal thing really, I simply don't like them. Maybe it's a snob thing, I don't know. I certainly don't like the lack of power for the CC, I find US engines to be lazy and designed to operate perfectly on US roads, but I live in Britain and Europe.

I also love the Jag v8 as an engine. I think it is very smooth, very refined and really delivers. It's a modern engine.

Another factor is that I want this conversion done by the best that British engineering has to offer, rather than throwing money at some garage to dump an big US lump in and then have to live with all the associated issues of a badly thought out and implemented product.

I really am looking to have the absolute best and retain as much of the heritage as is possible, which I think the jag/LR V8 achieves better than the LS could ever.