Freelander 1 or 2?

[munky]

Just put down a deposit on a Freelander 1 for the missus, 2006/06, TD4 Sport 5 dr auto, 35k miles, £12,850

however the same dealer now has a freelander 2, TD4 S 5dr manual, 27k miles, 2007/57, £16,850

is it worth the extra 4 grand for the newer model?

thanks

[Bebee]

munky said:

Just put down a deposit on a Freelander 1 for the missus, 2006/06, TD4 Sport 5 dr auto, 35k miles, £12,850

however the same dealer now has a freelander 2, TD4 S 5dr manual, 27k miles, 2007/57, £16,850

is it worth the extra 4 grand for the newer model?

thanks

For me there would be more factors before I consider the year.

The car you've put a deposit on:

Consider this in comparison to the 57 plate.

Alloys & tyre wear
Satnav?
Tow bar? If so, engine may have worked harder, or maybe that's just what you need for caravan, trailer etc (cost saving)
How many owners?
Service history.
When is service due on 57? soon? Would the dealer service it in the deal?
Is Mileage a great deal more that the 57 plate?
Interior, leather etc
Colour? Some are harder to sell on in the wrong colour.
Manual or auto (I've never considered an auto and never will)
Now the dealer has your deposit, he is less likely to give you the deal he would have for the 07, you're in his/her pocket. If you want 57, don't tell them until you get your deposit back, then express an interest in the 57, that way you can still walk away from all of it.

Edited for lots of spelling mistakes!

Edited by Bebee on Thursday 13th January 11:00

Edited by Bebee on Thursday 13th January 11:02

Edited by Bebee on Thursday 13th January 11:04

[munky]

Bebee said:

munky said:

Just put down a deposit on a Freelander 1 for the missus, 2006/06, TD4 Sport 5 dr auto, 35k miles, £12,850

however the same dealer now has a freelander 2, TD4 S 5dr manual, 27k miles, 2007/57, £16,850

is it worth the extra 4 grand for the newer model?

thanks

For me there would be more factors before I consider the year.

The car you've put a deposit on:

Consider this in comparison to the 07 plate.

Alloys & tyre tyre wear
Satnav?
Tow bar? If so engine may have worked harder, or maybe just what you need for caravan, trailer etc (cost saving)
How many owner?
Service history
When is service due on 07? soon? Would the dealer service it in the deal?
Is Mileage a great deal more that the other?
Interior, leather etc
Colour? Some are harder to sell on in the wrong colour.
Manual or auto (I've never considered an auto and never will)
Now the dealer has your deposit, he is less likely to give you the deal he would have for the 07, you're in his/her pocket. If you want 07, don't tell them until you get your deposit back, then express an interest in the 07, that way you can still walk away from all of it.

Edited by Bebee on Thursday 13th January 11:00

Good points, I'll find out. Some of it I know (some is already above)
Freelander 1 - black with black leather, auto, Sport model
Freelander 2 - silver with grey cloth interior, S model (entry level isn't it? Unlike the 1, the 2 has isofix for child seats. Higher passenger safety rating - probably due to curtain airbags. Has a couple of extras over base spec.

Mileage is 8k lower on the freelander 2. Neither have satnav, but not bothered about that, she only goes places she's been to before. Both have parking sensors and hill descent.

Got the distinct impression that there are no deals on price on either, as they're in demand. I missed one already as it sold before even getting onto the forecourt (hence why I put down a deposit to reserve one.) Wrong time of year to buy really, but if it snows again we simply can't get anywhere. However he did say quite clearly that if she decides she simply doesn't like the freelander (she has never driven one) then we get the deposit back. As I'll be servicing the Jag there, I doubt they'd want to lose that business over the sake of a grand deposit.
Must admit I don't know how many owners / service history - I'll find out. No tow bar on the 2, don't know about the 1.

thanks for the reply!

[munky]

To add, don't know if it matters but the freelander 1 sport has 18" alloys. Which may mean lower profile tyres than would otherwise be the case. Doubt it will ever go offroad but snow capability is the main requirement. Would 18" inch wheels affect ability to get winter / M+S tyres, or fit snow chains?

[was8v]

FL2 much better than FL1, no contest in my mind! Will hold its value better being the new model rather than the last of the old model.

Edit: I'd hold off a month or two until the memory of the snow has faded, likely to be more about and better deals.

Edited by was8v on Thursday 13th January 11:36

Edited by was8v on Thursday 13th January 11:37

[Stack]

Hi Munky - I have been doing the exact same thing as my Wifes 3 series bmw is due for replacement.

Looking at the prices , are they from a Landrover dealer ?
As I would say that Freelander 1 looks a little pricey meaning the differnece between the old & new models should be a little more ...?

[munky]

was8v said:

FL2 much better than FL1, no contest in my mind! Will hold its value better being the new model rather than the last of the old model.

Edit: I'd hold off a month or two until the memory of the snow has faded, likely to be more about and better deals.

Edited by was8v on Thursday 13th January 11:36

Edited by was8v on Thursday 13th January 11:37

Agreed it makes more sense to wait, however I don't want to be in the situation again where our daughter was stuck at school 5 miles away.. we just couldn't get there. We just moved house but kept her at the same school, previously it was 1 mile and walkable

[Stack]

I am am playing the waiting game as well....

I recently enquired about a Freelander1 Freestyle from a main Landrover dealer up for £11499 on a 06 with around 30k on the clock. As soon as I rang up they said the price should the 12k & it was a mistake on their website....yeah right !

Fortunately my Subaru is good in the snow ....

[munky]

Stack said:

I am am playing the waiting game as well....

I recently enquired about a Freelander1 Freestyle from a main Landrover dealer up for £11499 on a 06 with around 30k on the clock. As soon as I rang up they said the price should the 12k & it was a mistake on their website....yeah right !

Fortunately my Subaru is good in the snow ....

Autotrader has a private sale Freelander 2, 33k miles, for £11k! Seems too good to be true.. 355 miles from me though, so up north somewhere... http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

[was8v]

munky said:

Autotrader has a private sale Freelander 2, 33k miles, for £11k! Seems too good to be true.. 355 miles from me though, so up north somewhere... http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

seller said:

For any questions and more photos please use email, can not answer the phone.My email is: [e-mail]. £11,000.

This screams SCAM!!

[munky]

was8v said:

munky said:

Autotrader has a private sale Freelander 2, 33k miles, for £11k! Seems too good to be true.. 355 miles from me though, so up north somewhere... http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2011...

seller said:

For any questions and more photos please use email, can not answer the phone.My email is: [e-mail]. £11,000.

This screams SCAM!!

that's what I was thinking. So after a bit of googling I found this. A much more realistic price:
http://www.lodgemotor.co.uk/vehicle-details.asp?Bo...

I'm going to email them about the dodgy ad on autotrader; someone has copied the photos.

[mickyveloce]

I've got a Freelander 1 td4 sport auto , and a Freelander 2 SE manual . There is no doubt that the 2 is a better built , more refined machine , with a great reputation in the trade and with private buyers . My FL1 has loads of character though , and , having bought it to get through the snow , I'm quite attached to it now!
I wouldn't pay 11k for a 1 though ; either buy a nice 7k fl1 or spend 16-18on a 2 .

[A.J.M]

You can get a decent FL1 for about £6-8k, the facelift shape ran from 04-06 so you have a good choice of cars.

One thing i found when looking for mine was the sports had a huge range of spec differences compaired to other trim levels, I have an SE and i can find sport models that dont have the heated seats or front screen that mine has, others have the heated seats and no screen. Some didnt have parking sensors etc.

SE or HSE would be a good spec to buy if you dont fancy the sport. Check out autotrader for the specs to see fully what i mean.

Also, the tyres on it will determine how far in the snow you get. I have M+S rated michelins on mine and it was fine in the snow. I had kumhos on it last winter thanks to the previous owner and they werent M+S rated, the change in driving ability is massive with good tyres.

[munky]

Having trouble finding one for £7k I have to say; although my criteria are 2006 or later, and 40k miles or less, and TD4, and 5 door.

Searching on these plus within 60 miles of us, I get 1 result - £10,499
http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...

interesting point about the road tax.

Question then - how much extra is buying from a proper Land Rover dealer worth? Main benefits I guess are their stricter quality checks (if it's any guide, they currently don't have any other freelander 1s in stock) and the 1yr approved used warranty?

My feeling is maybe a grand, but possibly not 2 grand! Although in addition the example above has done 5k more miles.

[munky]

Out of interest does the FL2 have a smaller boot thank FL1? Presumably the space wheel goes somewhere... some seem to have spacesavers, some full size, some neither.

[mickyveloce]

My FL1 has the side opening rear door ; the FL2 is a hatch . The 1 has a lower boot sill than the 2 and a smaller boot (mine is a 3 door , but suspect the 5 door similar in size) . The spare is under the floor in the FL2 , hence the much higher loading height , and remember that the fL2 looks about the same size as a P38 Range Rover .

[West4x4]

FL2 is bigger inside they took the spare off the door and extended the body to put it under the floor. Same length outside more room inside. Id definatly go freelander 2 if you can afford it that is

[munky]

Interesting!

If it's the same length outside, but FL2 has a higher boot for the spare to go underneath, how did they achieve more room? e.g. less legroom, or have they done something clever with the engine & gearbox layout?

[munky]

The missus likes this one, because it's black and has the 18" shiny wheels
http://www.usedvehicles.landrover.co.uk/vehicle/11...

so that's what we'll probably get, subject to test drive and her coping with an auto.

it's bugging me though that the registration date is just a few days after the cutoff for the new tax band.. i.e this will be £430-ish a year as opposed to £245 had it been a few days older like this one http://www.autotrader.co.uk/classified/advert/2010...

Question - what does Freestyle refer to? And Adventurer for that matter.. I get the S, GS, XS, HSE thing but not the faintest what a Freestyle is

[JohnnyHayward]

In my opinion you should definitely go for a F2, they are much better than the F1. As other people have said if you really do want a F1 you should go for a cheaper one and then save the money for fixing it when, not if, it goes wrong !