anyone use Danwood?
anyone use Danwood?
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insurance_jon

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4,099 posts

277 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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Just had a bit of a shock, and I'm not naming and shaming, but if you use Danwood please check you charge per copy invoices.

It appears in the last couple of quarters they have had a bit of a change of company policy and are now charging scans as B&W printing.

It's a tad underhand.

Podie

46,649 posts

306 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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Noted, thanks.

Timja

1,955 posts

240 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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You may find this recent article about Danwood from a couple of weeks ago interesting too:

http://www.printweek.com/bulletin/printweekdailybu...

"Danwood Group Holdings has suspended four of its senior managers, including founder and chairman Colin Daniels, pending investigation."



We have had all sorts of issues with Danwood introducing new charges without notice, as well as large annual increases in copy costs - their answer when i tried to get them to sort it out was not to just give me a credit note but to try and sign me up for upgrading one of our machines.

insurance_jon

Original Poster:

4,099 posts

277 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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they will find that wont work with me

Stev8s

346 posts

214 months

Monday 28th January 2013
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I work in the industry on the service side for over 30 years and this is one of many scams a lot of people are attracted by the larger organisations because they offer a very low cost per copy well below what can be maintained just to get the business and then shaft you down the line another classic one is charging you say 3p/copy for colour and later finding out it is per scan so a colour copy being made of CMYK suddenly becomes 12p they also rely on companies not noticing or questioning the invoice as it tends to go to someone else who did not sign the deal.
To maintain a colour copier on a maintenance agreement including toner should be no lower than 5p anything lower and you are losing money but they entice you in and the likes of honest small office equipment companies cannot compete because they are very good at hiding increases another classics include high year on year increases, toner consumption is another as all the figures quoted are based on 5% coverage and nobody does that so they start charging you for toner be careful b ecause if you have signed a service contract aswell they are very good if you cancel coming after you for lost revenue.
It is a sad fact of today that loyalty has gone out the window everyone goes on price and we all know that if it is too cheap there will something coming along to bite you in the arse.

PS email me if you need any help or advice

Mr Overheads

2,635 posts

207 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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Good spot Jon

joewilliams

2,004 posts

232 months

Tuesday 29th January 2013
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One of the rolling graphics on their website homepage says "The true cost of printing can be hard to find..."
Can't say they didn't warn you!

I've recently done a number of TCO calculations for clients replacing leased printer/copiers. We have a trusted partner that we use who is very open about pricing, but there are clearly some who are undercharging just to get the business.

Examining what happens at the end of the lease is another tip - we can always get the printer left on site at a minimum rental if required, or for free if a new machine is leased.

Dave2014

1 posts

153 months

Tuesday 11th February 2014
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Hi Stev8s

Have you an email address i could contact you on, I need some help with some issues I'm having with Danwood.

Hope you can help

Cheers

Dave2014

Stev8s

346 posts

214 months

Wednesday 12th February 2014
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YHM

sider

2,061 posts

252 months

Friday 14th February 2014
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We did - but now use M2. (http://www.m2.uk.com/)

Think they've got a Wakey office Jon.

MaxFromage

2,651 posts

162 months

Saturday 15th February 2014
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There are some suppliers that I wood not touch due to prior experience and those of others. Some I woodn't touch with a wooden bargepole.

Stev8s

346 posts

214 months

Tuesday 17th June 2014
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Interested to know what the outcome was I have been contacted by others in a similar situation plus had a similar supplier trying to get in one of my customers after pointing out some of the outrageous clauses I think they thought twice being charged for scanning and 5% coverage clauses seem to be the norm these days !!!there seems to be some robbing bds out there trouble is tars the good guys with the same brush