Difficult Customers: I've heard it all now.
Difficult Customers: I've heard it all now.
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groucho

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12,134 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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I did this roofing repair for this old guy a month ago, invoiced straight away. I went around his house today to ask where payment was and this was his reply...

"I'm not paying you until it rains and I know it has worked" I pointed out to him it has been raining for nearly a week, and it is raining right now.

"Oh, yeah, but....I'm waiting for it to rain from the south east" I said I would just come back and get my lead that I used then.

Is it me, or is he a berk!

How do you deal with people like this? Luckily it's not a large amount of money, more of an annoyance.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Muppet.

mi1ne

307 posts

229 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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what an arse.

Think I could get away without paying my life assurance until I'm dead? smile

Pferdestarke

7,192 posts

218 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Do you really need to ask?

Get back round there and demand money now. You're being fobbed.

groucho

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12,134 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Pferdestarke said:
Do you really need to ask?

Get back round there and demand money now. You're being fobbed.
What can you do besides duffing him up? He is a most obnoxious little twerp.

B17NNS

18,506 posts

278 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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groucho said:
What can you do besides duffing him up? He is a most obnoxious little twerp.
Give it to a debt collector if that's how he likes to play.

benters

1,459 posts

165 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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i quite liked his reply if i am honest. biggrin

That said the job was done in good faith, so if your terms are 7 days or 30 then then payment is due.

groucho

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12,134 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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B17NNS said:
Give it to a debt collector if that's how he likes to play.
I like it! I'll send him a letter first.

Frimley111R

19,421 posts

265 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Overlooking the slightly amusing/stupid reply I'd be straight on to the debt collectors or whatever means you use when people don't pay. Perhaps Its easiest to rock up again and say you're taking your materials back as apparently your supplier has said they are not effective against SE winds!

Simpo Two

93,078 posts

296 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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'And when you get to Tesco's checkout do you say "Actually I won't pay now, I'll come back in a week and pay when I've eaten them"?'

Don

28,378 posts

315 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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groucho said:
I did this roofing repair for this old guy a month ago, invoiced straight away. I went around his house today to ask where payment was and this was his reply...

"I'm not paying you until it rains and I know it has worked" I pointed out to him it has been raining for nearly a week, and it is raining right now.

"Oh, yeah, but....I'm waiting for it to rain from the south east" I said I would just come back and get my lead that I used then.

Is it me, or is he a berk!

How do you deal with people like this? Luckily it's not a large amount of money, more of an annoyance.
Blimey. He's either dumb like a rock or trying it on! How the bloody hell does he begin to think that's fair! Calling you back if there's a problem - I understand. Just not paying in case there might be?

Try the nice approach first. A letter laying out what is owed, needs paying now and how long he has to do it. Also note what will occur if this is not done (i.e. debt collection agency involved etc).

The bloke should not want his credit rating destroyed....blimey.

Monkeylegend

29,589 posts

262 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Do you have anything in writing, on a quote or invoice, that states all materials used remain your property until paid for, or something that effect. If so I would be inclined to tell him you will be back to remove them on a certain date if he has not paid the outstanding invoice by then.


ticmon

118 posts

219 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Just take a hose round and spray from the South East?

groucho

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12,134 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Don said:
Blimey. He's either dumb like a rock or trying it on! How the bloody hell does he begin to think that's fair! Calling you back if there's a problem - I understand. Just not paying in case there might be?

Try the nice approach first. A letter laying out what is owed, needs paying now and how long he has to do it. Also note what will occur if this is not done (i.e. debt collection agency involved etc).

The bloke should not want his credit rating destroyed....blimey.
This is the stupidity of it. Let's say for argument's sake that it did leak when it rained from the SW rolleyes Does he expect me to go round again, spend more time and then wait for months for it to rain in the right direction?

In all my years working I have never heard anything like it.

This reminds me of another woman I did a repair for a couple of years ago. I had finished the job and she did pay. After that she kept calling me, asking if I had done the work properly. I said, why, is it leaking? She said no, but it might do in the future and it is not good enough. I of course said that it wouldn't, to which she went on to ask me how do I know.

Ummm - I've been doing it for over 30 yrs, that's how I know.

So, I repaired her leak, that never leaked again - but that was not good enough. As mad as it sounds, there is nothing more to this story,

Some people are very bizarre.



Edited by groucho on Wednesday 18th December 19:33

groucho

Original Poster:

12,134 posts

277 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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Monkeylegend said:
Do you have anything in writing, on a quote or invoice, that states all materials used remain your property until paid for, or something that effect. If so I would be inclined to tell him you will be back to remove them on a certain date if he has not paid the outstanding invoice by then.
I have a written invoice, but no t&cs stating what you mention. Normally all is ok, but customers are definitely getting worse. They treat you like scum sometimes.

Monkeylegend

29,589 posts

262 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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groucho said:
Monkeylegend said:
Do you have anything in writing, on a quote or invoice, that states all materials used remain your property until paid for, or something that effect. If so I would be inclined to tell him you will be back to remove them on a certain date if he has not paid the outstanding invoice by then.
I have a written invoice, but no t&cs stating what you mention. Normally all is ok, but customers are definitely getting worse. They treat you like scum sometimes.
Maybe a written reminder followed by a final demand for payment if not forthcoming, stating you will take further action to recover the debt and associated costs if they don't pay within 7 day. This has worked for me in the past.

Good luck.

Broccers

3,237 posts

284 months

Wednesday 18th December 2013
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If you don't have t and cs stating retention of ownership you can't take your materials back.

The law is great.


Simpo Two

93,078 posts

296 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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I wouldn't want bits of second-hand old roof; I'd go for the money. But I think there is space for some sensible comms before throwing legal stuff about, which may just send him into his bunker.

DUMBO100

1,878 posts

215 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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If he's an older Gent perhaps it's worth remembering that he might be suffering some mental decline and his responses won't be the same as ours. Aggressive and unreasonable behaviour is common in this age group best thing to do is slow and steady and if he has family near by to get them involved. My Gran has sacked 9 cleaners in 12 weeks. Have a cup of tea with him and chat about the old days.. and then request payment

Simon Brooks

1,527 posts

282 months

Thursday 19th December 2013
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Take back anything that is easy to remove Bet he pays up pretty sharp