Do you have customers or clients?
Do you have customers or clients?
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bernhund

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3,798 posts

224 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Always wondered about this one. I've sort of felt that calling a 'customer' a 'client' was a bit pretentious, but maybe that's just my working class roots.
I run a bathroom refurbishment company employing 3 teams of 2 and have often wondered whether I have clients or customers. I recognise that perhaps in the legal business for example 'client' sounds right, but then, as another example, should hairdressers have clients or customers?

So when is a 'client' a 'customer' or a 'customer' a 'client'?

Fotic

719 posts

160 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Customers buy products, clients buy services IMO.

Eric Mc

125,903 posts

296 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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I tend to look on "clients" as being people and businesses which use professional services. So they are looking for more from the supplier than merely buying something. They want a relationship as well.

bernhund

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224 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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So in effect, I have 'clients'? I meet them at their house, talk through what it is they are looking to do, help source the supplies and basically hold their hand from start to finish. Often leading to repeat business.

Simpo Two

93,063 posts

296 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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I think in many cases 'client' is pretentious.

I think the train compaines now call their passengers 'clients'; quite stupid and unecessary. It is the flip side of dumbing-down - 'bigging-up'.

Grandfondo

12,241 posts

237 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Prostitutes have clients so I would imagine that "professional" people like lawyers,IFAs,car dealers and the like would call there punters "clients" due to them also taking their pants down! wink

bernhund

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Sunday 17th August 2014
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Grandfondo said:
Prostitutes have clients so I would imagine that "professional" people like lawyers,IFAs,car dealers and the like would call there punters "clients" due to them also taking their pants down! wink
That made me chuckle!laugh

bernhund

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Sunday 17th August 2014
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Simpo Two said:
I think in many cases 'client' is pretentious.

I think the train compaines now call their passengers 'clients'; quite stupid and unecessary. It is the flip side of dumbing-down - 'bigging-up'.
I think that's just it with me; I feel I'd be 'bigging up' calling my customers clients, but perhaps I shouldn't feel that at all.

Eric Mc

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296 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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I've never called my clients "customers" - because to me that is not what they are.

Grandfondo

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237 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Eric Mc said:
I've never called my clients "customers" - because to me that is not what they are.
wink

PurpleMoonlight

22,362 posts

188 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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HMRC now consider us customers. Are prisoners now guests? eek

I agree with customers for a product, and client for a service, although I find the way solicitors use the term comes across as one of possession rather than relationship.

bernhund

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Sunday 17th August 2014
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Eric Mc said:
I've never called my clients "customers" - because to me that is not what they are.
I totally agree with you Eric. A 'customer' for you would just be wrong. As a tradesman though, it feels awkward for me to use the term. But maybe that's just an insecurity of mine?

Eric Mc

125,903 posts

296 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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As I said, I think it's all to do with relationships. By and large, once a "customer" has bought the goods (or even a one off service) the relationship between the buyer and seller is probably ended - until the next time they might need to acquire another product or service.

In many ways, I think it is one of the reasons why the banks "went wrong" in that they stopped considering that the people they dealt with were clients that they needed to nurture, look after and (in some cases) even protect. They became "mere" customers, who were to be sold to, even exploited, wherever possible.

Bradgate

3,227 posts

178 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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We have passengers or, in airline jargon "pax". Some airlines have SLF, ie self-loading freight.

bernhund

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Sunday 17th August 2014
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Bradgate said:
We have passengers or, in airline jargon "pax". Some airlines have SLF, ie self-loading freight.
That's just brilliant!laugh

Eric Mc

125,903 posts

296 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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I wonder what Ryanair call them?

bernhund

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224 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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Eric Mc said:
I wonder what Ryanair call them?
Maybe not the 'C' words we've been talking about Eric!

HoHoHo

15,402 posts

281 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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As mentioned, I've always said prostitutes have clients, we have customers.

Simples wobble

Fotic

719 posts

160 months

Sunday 17th August 2014
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HoHoHo said:
Simples ::
The mark of a cretin!

HoHoHo

15,402 posts

281 months

Monday 18th August 2014
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Fotic said:
HoHoHo said:
Simples ::
The mark of a cretin!
Thanks.

Don't remember insulting you scratchchin

And you didn't even manage to quote including the 'smile', just got two colons.

If you're going to take the piss, get it right.

Cretin.

Edited by HoHoHo on Monday 18th August 07:27