What to charge for delivery and installation
Discussion
Supply props to local am-dram groups for theatre productions as a bit of a hobby. Been doing it low-key for a while, but recently set-up as a social enterprise and now have a small industrial unit and proper bank account etc. If it does more than pay the storage for a while I'll be surprised, but as it grows some props are becoming more technical and could require installation by people/me who are familiar with the items.
Somebody wants to rent a LOT of stuff for a production - probably a spend of £1k+ and also wants delivery and installation of some moving parts. It's 110 miles from me and would require a van (which we have for our own shows etc), delivery on a Sunday daytime - probably around 4 or 5 hours of work, then dismantling (maybe 2 hours) and collection around midnight on a Saturday night. So two lots of a 220 mile round trip and some time (1 person each trip, with the first trip requiring someone 'skilled' to a point).
£1k+ is a decent booking, typical spend probably £150-£200. The groups are predominantly amateur groups, some charities (some make proper money from ticket sales), I don't want to undersell but I also want to grow the thing which won't happen without word of mouth. Normally groups having bigger items will come in a van and collect, but one particular prop I'd prefer (as would they) if we can install it.
Any ideas what is a realistic sum for such a service? I've never taken a wage, and if there ever was profit, it'd be reinvested in growing the catalogue.
Somebody wants to rent a LOT of stuff for a production - probably a spend of £1k+ and also wants delivery and installation of some moving parts. It's 110 miles from me and would require a van (which we have for our own shows etc), delivery on a Sunday daytime - probably around 4 or 5 hours of work, then dismantling (maybe 2 hours) and collection around midnight on a Saturday night. So two lots of a 220 mile round trip and some time (1 person each trip, with the first trip requiring someone 'skilled' to a point).
£1k+ is a decent booking, typical spend probably £150-£200. The groups are predominantly amateur groups, some charities (some make proper money from ticket sales), I don't want to undersell but I also want to grow the thing which won't happen without word of mouth. Normally groups having bigger items will come in a van and collect, but one particular prop I'd prefer (as would they) if we can install it.
Any ideas what is a realistic sum for such a service? I've never taken a wage, and if there ever was profit, it'd be reinvested in growing the catalogue.
I guess I really need to start at a minimum 'reasonable' cost. If folk aren't happy to pay that, I probably shouldn't bother. Might offer to deliver/install, but they can hire a van and do the return leg to keep the headline figure lower (which they probably couldn't be arsed to to after a run of shows and gets added on nearer the time).
HoHoHo said:
Travel plus £350 plus vat if you are registered.
Who's the charity here?
Not a charity in this particular case (youth theatre group), but many theatre and arts groups are registered charities (some of which make decent returns from ticket sales, plus cast/ensemble usually pay to be involved). I work with a big national arts charity who are VAT registered - but most groups are not. I'm nowhere close to needing to register myself. While £1000 is a good amount for me, the next group (that I'm aware of) performing the same show is in March next year - and nothing to say they'd use my props - although getting them on stage and seen is about the best advert. Who's the charity here?
I've opted for 50p a mile option plus a nominal hourly sum for time on site.
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HoHoHo said:
Travel plus £350 plus vat if you are registered.
Who's the charity here?
Not a charity in this particular case (youth theatre group), but many theatre and arts groups are registered charities (some of which make decent returns from ticket sales, plus cast/ensemble usually pay to be involved). I work with a big national arts charity who are VAT registered - but most groups are not. I'm nowhere close to needing to register myself. While £1000 is a good amount for me, the next group (that I'm aware of) performing the same show is in March next year - and nothing to say they'd use my props - although getting them on stage and seen is about the best advert. Who's the charity here?
I've opted for 50p a mile option plus a nominal hourly sum for time on site.
You'll soon rack up £350 on a busy full on day and it is Sunday as well!
I'd be charging 63p/mile to and from your premises and then for your time from leaving your premises until the time you get back home.
Always charge it out as though you'd have to employ staff to do the work at time and a half for Saturday and then if it goes in to Sunday double time (and normally in our trade a minimum of 8hrs if it goes into Sunday morning).
HTH!
Always charge it out as though you'd have to employ staff to do the work at time and a half for Saturday and then if it goes in to Sunday double time (and normally in our trade a minimum of 8hrs if it goes into Sunday morning).
HTH!
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