Royal Mail, DPD et al may have a scary competitor
Royal Mail, DPD et al may have a scary competitor
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DSLiverpool

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16,537 posts

233 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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"Amazon has been investing heavily in the logistics needed to extend all the way through its delivery chain. It is buying its own truck trailers, hiring on-demand delivery workers and building a new type of delivery hub — with technology that has thus far been kept under wraps — in major cities from Seattle to New York.

Analysts believe door to door delivery could be the next big sector that Amazon disrupts, in the same way it shook up cloud computing services by launching Amazon Web Services.

“The logical next step is, if you are going to have all this infrastructure, why not open it up to be a competitor to logistics networks like FedEx and UPS,” says Scot Wingo, executive chairman of ChannelAdvisor, a software provider for retailers that use Amazon and eBay. “I fully believe it’s something they could go after and be successful at.”

Whilst Amazon is a pain in the arse as a channel / competitor I admire the fact it they dont mess around.

Hopefully this comes to the UK soon

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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I have already had stuff delivered by "Amazon Logistics".

DSLiverpool

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16,537 posts

233 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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grumbledoak said:
I have already had stuff delivered by "Amazon Logistics".
Packing or vehicle / driver?

grumbledoak

32,571 posts

264 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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Didn't see them, but the text messages said so. No mention of the usual suspects.

DSLiverpool

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16,537 posts

233 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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grumbledoak said:
Didn't see them, but the text messages said so. No mention of the usual suspects.
I think they are "getting the name around" but in the UK its all UPS / DPD / RM I have spent a few days getting up to speed on delivery software and partners to use for a client (a client, makes me sound like I know what I am talking about) the Amazon fulfilment service on paper looks excellent but they are just too busy to trust with 3rd party shipping above their own and FBA.

tr7v8

7,625 posts

259 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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DSLiverpool said:
grumbledoak said:
Didn't see them, but the text messages said so. No mention of the usual suspects.
I think they are "getting the name around" but in the UK its all UPS / DPD / RM I have spent a few days getting up to speed on delivery software and partners to use for a client (a client, makes me sound like I know what I am talking about) the Amazon fulfilment service on paper looks excellent but they are just too busy to trust with 3rd party shipping above their own and FBA.
Nope in Kent Amazon stuff is delivered by an independent, not one of the names you came up with & he only seems to do Amazon delivery.

phil-sti

2,981 posts

210 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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My company moves a lot of the Amazon and Hermes loads between there warehouses and delivery hubs and there is nothing groundbreaking at all.

mad4amanda

2,410 posts

195 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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tr7v8 said:
Nope in Kent Amazon stuff is delivered by an independent, not one of the names you came up with & he only seems to do Amazon delivery.
Yes my stuff this year has come by this company too Amazon Logistics also in kent.

DSLiverpool

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16,537 posts

233 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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tr7v8 said:
DSLiverpool said:
grumbledoak said:
Didn't see them, but the text messages said so. No mention of the usual suspects.
I think they are "getting the name around" but in the UK its all UPS / DPD / RM I have spent a few days getting up to speed on delivery software and partners to use for a client (a client, makes me sound like I know what I am talking about) the Amazon fulfilment service on paper looks excellent but they are just too busy to trust with 3rd party shipping above their own and FBA.
Nope in Kent Amazon stuff is delivered by an independent, not one of the names you came up with & he only seems to do Amazon delivery.
The indie may be a subby to DPD / UPS as I am sure Hermes / Yodel no longer have major contracts but its virtually impossible to know every area / every deal

Magic919

14,575 posts

232 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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Some of my Amazon parcels come using APLE. They show up as Amazon Logistics when I check my account.

AJB88

15,957 posts

202 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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Independent delivers my Amazon and Hermes stuff in Milton Keynes.

Hoofy

80,154 posts

313 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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TBH I couldn't give a st what they call themselves. It would be nice to know when I can go for a piss and not miss a delivery.

Nickyboy

6,825 posts

265 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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Amazon are looking to cut out the middle man and do most of their own deliveries, although they're called Amazon Logistics they are still a contractor the same as using the likes of UPS/DPD. The idea they're working on in the USA at the moment is that they'll essentially trunk their own parcels to regional hubs and local companies will deliver them, some holding popular stock ready for immediate delivery. At busy periods they will still rely on the main couriers to take the extra volume.

They do it over here but obviously not as big. We (UPS) don't do a lot of UK volume, it's mostly left to Amazon Logistics as their cost per parcel is a lot lower, we normally handle International and European volume but as was the case this week when DPD said they couldn't handle the extra volume from Amazon one phone call meant they had 12 trailers on their way from our Tamworth hub within 2 hours and we get an extra 40,000 packages a day in our system. It helps having your fingers in every pie, they don't have to worry about negotiating rates, they can pick up the phone knowing their goods will be delivered.

ModernAndy

2,094 posts

166 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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Hoofy said:
TBH I couldn't give a st what they call themselves. It would be nice to know when I can go for a piss and not miss a delivery.
http://viz.co.uk/waiting-in-for-a-fking-parcel/

anonymous-user

85 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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The market is massively saturated and the margins are pretty tiny. The money is contract logistics, and I think in the UK owning and running there own infrastructure is a pretty stupid thing to do.

Might work better in the US but Britain is a small island.

Sheepshanks

41,287 posts

150 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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We've had deliveries for some time (certainly a year as I remember them bringing my wife's then new iPhone6 case on a Sunday) from guys in plain white vans carrying only Amazon stuff. Had another one today.

I assumed they were Amazon Logistics people.

I've read stuff, and my recent experiences seems to bear this out, that they're deliberately delaying deliveries to take the maximum estimated time so as to encourage more people to pay for Prime.

Hoofy

80,154 posts

313 months

Friday 11th December 2015
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ModernAndy said:
Hoofy said:
TBH I couldn't give a st what they call themselves. It would be nice to know when I can go for a piss and not miss a delivery.
http://viz.co.uk/waiting-in-for-a-fking-parcel/
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anonymous-user

85 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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Maybe I am wrong looks like amazon will be launching amazon fresh which would help to utilise the network better.

But look at ocado 949 million turnover, 7 million pretax profit, that is razor thin margins for a lot of capex investment.

LDN

9,314 posts

234 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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I hear Amazon are taking over big parts of the newly extended Manchester Airport with a view to expanding logistics; as well, I've seen a new Amazon Locker thing in my local petrol station; you order and its put in this massive locker branded Amazon - you can go and pick up your delivery from it whenever you want; I suppose to avoid missed deliveries... weird and cumbersome looking thing.

plasticpig

12,932 posts

256 months

Saturday 12th December 2015
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Sheepshanks said:
We've had deliveries for some time (certainly a year as I remember them bringing my wife's then new iPhone6 case on a Sunday) from guys in plain white vans carrying only Amazon stuff. Had another one today.

I assumed they were Amazon Logistics people.

I've read stuff, and my recent experiences seems to bear this out, that they're deliberately delaying deliveries to take the maximum estimated time so as to encourage more people to pay for Prime.
You might think that but Amazon have extended my prime membership by 6 months in the last 2 months. All down to Amazon Logistics. Their nearest depot is 30 miles away and the vans don't often leave till 10.30 in the morning. Since it's an office address they cant deliver after 5.30. I am now ordering all stuff individually instead of all in single basket. I can then ring up and complain about each order individually when it isn't delivered next day and get more free months of Prime.