Anyone else feel hard done by the Government
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Lately I have been feeling really angry at the government & Co regarding the unfair and quite frankly discriminatory treatment against small business owners.
Time and time again we hear about how larger businesses/corporations are paying little to no CT for UK sales and God knows what else they are fudging yet any little incentives or perks small business owners have seem to be quickly being removed.
If anything do we not deserve more help.
Being VAT registered, paying CT and all sorts of other taxes is just a complete con.
Time and time again we hear about how larger businesses/corporations are paying little to no CT for UK sales and God knows what else they are fudging yet any little incentives or perks small business owners have seem to be quickly being removed.
If anything do we not deserve more help.
Being VAT registered, paying CT and all sorts of other taxes is just a complete con.
V8A*ndy said:
Living wage is really going to hit a lot of sectors hard.
CT is going to be slashed to 12.5% in N.I.
By 2025 it will be the new Hong Kong.
Its getting very frustrating. I am going to seriously have to start looking into legal set ups that will allow me to grow in the future.
IATM said:
Lately I have been feeling really angry at the government & Co regarding the unfair and quite frankly discriminatory treatment against small business owners.
Time and time again we hear about how larger businesses/corporations are paying little to no CT for UK sales and God knows what else they are fudging yet any little incentives or perks small business owners have seem to be quickly being removed.
If anything do we not deserve more help.
Being VAT registered, paying CT and all sorts of other taxes is just a complete con.
Time and time again we see these claims, mainly from people with vested interests who don't have a clue what they are talking about!Time and time again we hear about how larger businesses/corporations are paying little to no CT for UK sales and God knows what else they are fudging yet any little incentives or perks small business owners have seem to be quickly being removed.
If anything do we not deserve more help.
Being VAT registered, paying CT and all sorts of other taxes is just a complete con.
sidicks said:
PurpleMoonlight said:
Netflix is the latest tax avoider apparently.
Reported as £200M in sales in the UK, £0 corporation tax.
far easier for the Government to take an extra 7.5% tax from small business owners.
Tax is not paid on sales. It is paid on profits.Reported as £200M in sales in the UK, £0 corporation tax.
far easier for the Government to take an extra 7.5% tax from small business owners.
HTH
"Figures obtained by The Sunday Times showed that its Dutch arm - Netflix International BV - had a net turnover of £415million and profits of £11.3million.
British customers, who typically pay £5.99 a month for the service are given contracts from Netflix BV. "
IATM said:
Lately I have been feeling really angry at the government & Co regarding the unfair and quite frankly discriminatory treatment against small business owners.
Time and time again we hear about how larger businesses/corporations are paying little to no CT for UK sales and God knows what else they are fudging yet any little incentives or perks small business owners have seem to be quickly being removed.
If anything do we not deserve more help.
Being VAT registered, paying CT and all sorts of other taxes is just a complete con.
I think your anger is misplaced. The UK isn't a great place for big business, I don't know exactly why or if there's just one reason. It could be the currency, it could be the tax system or it could be the availability of people, but we in the UK don't get big business in the same way as e.g. the US does. Time and time again we hear about how larger businesses/corporations are paying little to no CT for UK sales and God knows what else they are fudging yet any little incentives or perks small business owners have seem to be quickly being removed.
If anything do we not deserve more help.
Being VAT registered, paying CT and all sorts of other taxes is just a complete con.
What the Government's more bothered about is jobs for people. While we have decent money flowing we don't have big businesses in a truly large corporate way. We have a few in the City, but elsewhere it's just small time stuff that might employ 5-250 people. That's small business and they don't employ an awful lot of people.
The biggest employer for miles around here is the NHS. Behind that is the local Uni. Behind that is the county council. There's no large employers around here that aren't public sector, and the Gov in some ways needs there to be. So they cut breaks for new big businesses coming in to the country and the f
kers all want to be in London/SE. So London becomes more and more isolated from the reality of the rest of the country. As in say, Leicester. Or Leeds. Being angry at big corporates doesn't make any sense, because they're working the breaks given to them. Being angry at the Government gives you a 3 way choice of 1. suck it up 2. move to the EU or 3 do something else.
andy-xr said:
What the Government's more bothered about is jobs for people. While we have decent money flowing we don't have big businesses in a truly large corporate way. We have a few in the City, but elsewhere it's just small time stuff that might employ 5-250 people. That's small business and they don't employ an awful lot of people.
The biggest employer for miles around here is the NHS. Behind that is the local Uni. Behind that is the county council. There's no large employers around here that aren't public sector, and the Gov in some ways needs there to be. So they cut breaks for new big businesses coming in to the country and the fkers all want to be in London/SE. So London becomes more and more isolated from the reality of the rest of the country. As in say, Leicester. Or Leeds.
Err, that is very far from the reality. The NHS in total employs about 1.3 million, UK SMEs employ 16 million, the rest of the private sector employs about 10 million.The biggest employer for miles around here is the NHS. Behind that is the local Uni. Behind that is the county council. There's no large employers around here that aren't public sector, and the Gov in some ways needs there to be. So they cut breaks for new big businesses coming in to the country and the f
kers all want to be in London/SE. So London becomes more and more isolated from the reality of the rest of the country. As in say, Leicester. Or Leeds. If you cared to examine the figures for somewhere like Leeds you will find only approx 30% of the workforce are employed by the "Public admin, education and health" sector.
(https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/lep/1925185551/report.aspx#tabempunemp)
I'm a small business owner and feel increasingly squeezed by changes in this governments policies. It's almost as if they think people set up a business for the benefit of paying them tax.
I'm seriously thinking about taking my business abroad as a result.
I never expected to be put in this position by a conservative government.
I'm seriously thinking about taking my business abroad as a result.
I never expected to be put in this position by a conservative government.
Ean218 said:
Err, that is very far from the reality. The NHS in total employs about 1.3 million, UK SMEs employ 16 million, the rest of the private sector employs about 10 million.
If you cared to examine the figures for somewhere like Leeds you will find only approx 30% of the workforce are employed by the "Public admin, education and health" sector.
(https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/lep/1925185551/report.aspx#tabempunemp)
That's the reality around here if you're looking at who the biggest employers are. Not how many little employers who employ more people. If you cared to examine the figures for somewhere like Leeds you will find only approx 30% of the workforce are employed by the "Public admin, education and health" sector.
(https://www.nomisweb.co.uk/reports/lmp/lep/1925185551/report.aspx#tabempunemp)
Sheepshanks said:
I wonder how many people Netflix employs in the UK to suck £200M out of our economy?
I once sized up a datacenter project for a customer, we were only doing the basic connectivity. I can't remember how much square foot it was, but lets say the building was 50k sq foot new build onto some land they'd bought. Edited by Sheepshanks on Monday 21st December 15:05
The local council guy comes round and says oh wow, with 50k sq foot you must be creating about 150 new jobs, this is great! When he found out it'd be 4 guys looking at data from racks and racks of servers his face dropped. The building size in the councils mind tied to an amount of jobs that would be needed to run it as it it were a factory or an office. Couldn't get his head around it that only 2 people were needed with another 2 on shift
Edited by andy-xr on Monday 21st December 15:21
trickywoo said:
I'm a small business owner and feel increasingly squeezed by changes in this governments policies. It's almost as if they think people set up a business for the benefit of paying them tax.
I'm seriously thinking about taking my business abroad as a result.
I never expected to be put in this position by a conservative government.
That is exactly my postion.I'm seriously thinking about taking my business abroad as a result.
I never expected to be put in this position by a conservative government.
Not sure what industry your in but I think it would be very very difficult for me as I buy and sell goods.
It might be a case of concentrating on international business and set up elsewhere.
When I think about my sales and the amount of "tax" in one or another that I need to worry about paying out is just a joke.
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