Service provider faked invoice to extend our contract!!
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Hi
Interesting one for me and a first. January seems to be the month of b3ll3nds in my line of work, all good fun tho!
Right, Q1 Initial Term 3 months contract taken in Jan15 and paid in advance for use a service.
Terms of contract state:
Term extensions are subject to negotiation prior to the extensions taking effect.
We didn't renew, nor were we contacted to renew, nor were we invoiced for Q2.
January of this year I was contacted and told we owed the company money. I responded stating that we didn't for the reasons above. I was then visited for a meeting where I was told that they did invoice in April 2015 and had a printed copy which I refused to take.
I've since had an email with a WORD DOC invoice attached, the one they apparently sent in April 2015.
Checked the METADATA thats automatically stored by WORD into each DOC file, it was created Jan 2016, 2hours after receiving my email telling them to f-off for above reasons. Can you believe the cheek.
I've pulled them up on it and they have gone quiet, apart from laugh at them and tell them to do one not sure what else I could do. Is it worth contacting anyone as they could do this to other companies, who don't work in IT, who may fall for it and pay them
Interesting one for me and a first. January seems to be the month of b3ll3nds in my line of work, all good fun tho!
Right, Q1 Initial Term 3 months contract taken in Jan15 and paid in advance for use a service.
Terms of contract state:
Term extensions are subject to negotiation prior to the extensions taking effect.
We didn't renew, nor were we contacted to renew, nor were we invoiced for Q2.
January of this year I was contacted and told we owed the company money. I responded stating that we didn't for the reasons above. I was then visited for a meeting where I was told that they did invoice in April 2015 and had a printed copy which I refused to take.
I've since had an email with a WORD DOC invoice attached, the one they apparently sent in April 2015.
Checked the METADATA thats automatically stored by WORD into each DOC file, it was created Jan 2016, 2hours after receiving my email telling them to f-off for above reasons. Can you believe the cheek.
I've pulled them up on it and they have gone quiet, apart from laugh at them and tell them to do one not sure what else I could do. Is it worth contacting anyone as they could do this to other companies, who don't work in IT, who may fall for it and pay them
Edited by jonamv8 on Wednesday 20th January 18:07
Have they actually taken any monies from you?
If not then every time they send and invoice/reminder be right on top of it and acknowledge/reply reminding them of their Fraud.
If it's a significant amount I'd be inclined to get my lawyer to open a file and send a letter.
A friend had a real issue with a credit card machine supplier where the salesman had "cut n pasted" my friends signature on to the agreements so the company were pursing with vigor as they claimed they didn't know of the salesmans fraud/deceit, it very nearly ended up on court as my friend was arguing it themselves it only stopped then the company got a solicitors letter and the company took it seriously, he wished he's spent the £200 earlier as the stress cost more!!
If not then every time they send and invoice/reminder be right on top of it and acknowledge/reply reminding them of their Fraud.
If it's a significant amount I'd be inclined to get my lawyer to open a file and send a letter.
A friend had a real issue with a credit card machine supplier where the salesman had "cut n pasted" my friends signature on to the agreements so the company were pursing with vigor as they claimed they didn't know of the salesmans fraud/deceit, it very nearly ended up on court as my friend was arguing it themselves it only stopped then the company got a solicitors letter and the company took it seriously, he wished he's spent the £200 earlier as the stress cost more!!
Pints said:
xjay1337 said:
Why not name and shame them....
Nothing illegal about alerting other people to some obviously unethical fellows.
Naming and shaming is against site rules. Nothing illegal about alerting other people to some obviously unethical fellows.
It's a niche B2B service so no real benefit to me to add to review sites. The business in my opinion won't be around for long, I get the impression they are holding on by skin of their teeth trying things like this to keep their heads above water
Marcellus said:
Have they actually taken any monies from you?
If not then every time they send and invoice/reminder be right on top of it and acknowledge/reply reminding them of their Fraud.
If it's a significant amount I'd be inclined to get my lawyer to open a file and send a letter.
A friend had a real issue with a credit card machine supplier where the salesman had "cut n pasted" my friends signature on to the agreements so the company were pursing with vigor as they claimed they didn't know of the salesmans fraud/deceit, it very nearly ended up on court as my friend was arguing it themselves it only stopped then the company got a solicitors letter and the company took it seriously, he wished he's spent the £200 earlier as the stress cost more!!
Significant in that it's 4 figures.If not then every time they send and invoice/reminder be right on top of it and acknowledge/reply reminding them of their Fraud.
If it's a significant amount I'd be inclined to get my lawyer to open a file and send a letter.
A friend had a real issue with a credit card machine supplier where the salesman had "cut n pasted" my friends signature on to the agreements so the company were pursing with vigor as they claimed they didn't know of the salesmans fraud/deceit, it very nearly ended up on court as my friend was arguing it themselves it only stopped then the company got a solicitors letter and the company took it seriously, he wished he's spent the £200 earlier as the stress cost more!!
They havne't got the ability to take money, they want me to send it to them hahahaha
I sent a very strongly worded email to their CEO explaining that I am not happy with someone trying to rip me off. Normally quick to respond haven't heard from him since. He had a telecon scheduled for Tuesday, never called me. Someones been caught out and is burying their heads in the sand.
I have good industry contacts and also know some key people involved who have been made aware.
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