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Hi all. I own a shop (post office) where the waste (mainly cardboard and paper) is taken away and burnt (by me) at home - There's not a lot, maybe a bin liner a week.
The council are on at me to have a waste contract with them whereby they want to charge me £20 a week to take it away.
Am I forced to do this? Am I breaking any laws by doing what I'm doing?
Thanks for any advice.
The council are on at me to have a waste contract with them whereby they want to charge me £20 a week to take it away.
Am I forced to do this? Am I breaking any laws by doing what I'm doing?
Thanks for any advice.
Edited by audi321 on Tuesday 8th November 21:48
227bhp said:
It's one of those laws that's very rarely enforced.
A bit like lane hogging.
Ive had a £300 fine for transporting electrical waste without a licence, so it is enforced.A bit like lane hogging.
They set up road blocks and stop all commercial looking vehicles (including 4X4's) and prosecute anyone with the slightest hint of business waste and no licence!
Right, I've been on some gov.uk website and registered myself as a 'commercial waste authorised carrier'. This is free to do if it's my own waste and just paper etc.
So I now have a certificate! Does this mean I am now allowed to transport my own waste? Now what about disposing of it?
So I now have a certificate! Does this mean I am now allowed to transport my own waste? Now what about disposing of it?
Edited by audi321 on Tuesday 8th November 22:21
audi321 said:
Hi all. I own a shop (post office) where the waste (mainly cardboard and paper) is taken away and burnt (by me) at home - There's not a lot, maybe a bin liner a week.
The council are on at me to have a waste contract with them whereby they want to charge me £20 a week to take it away.
Am I forced to do this? Am I breaking any laws by doing what I'm doing?
Thanks for any advice.
Take no notice.The council are on at me to have a waste contract with them whereby they want to charge me £20 a week to take it away.
Am I forced to do this? Am I breaking any laws by doing what I'm doing?
Thanks for any advice.
I flatten my Cardboard boxes (Maybe fifteen large ones a week) and take them to the local tip every week/fortnight.
Strictly speaking it's trade waste, but the council turn a blind eye.
There is no law whatsoever to stop you burning them at home....(Providing you are not causing a nuisence to your neighbours with the smoke etc)
Jobsworths...They make me sick.
Bristol spark said:
227bhp said:
It's one of those laws that's very rarely enforced.
A bit like lane hogging.
Ive had a £300 fine for transporting electrical waste without a licence, so it is enforced.A bit like lane hogging.
They set up road blocks and stop all commercial looking vehicles (including 4X4's) and prosecute anyone with the slightest hint of business waste and no licence!
Someone got pulled for lane hogging too once.
audi321 said:
Right, I've been on some gov.uk website and registered myself as a 'commercial waste authorised carrier'. This is free to do if it's my own waste and just paper etc.
So I now have a certificate! Does this mean I am now allowed to transport my own waste? Now what about disposing of it?
Now you're officially allowed to call your waste commercial, it's illegal to burn it So I now have a certificate! Does this mean I am now allowed to transport my own waste? Now what about disposing of it?
Edited by audi321 on Tuesday 8th November 22:21
ETA We have a massive free wheelie bin that all cardboard goes in and is taken away for free by a recycling company when full.
audi321 said:
TheRainMaker said:
If it's your own business waste, the licence is free, you can do it online and I believe it will just auto renew each year.
Cheers. That's what I've done. But what can I tell them I do with it to get them off my back?However, why can't you tell them to get lost? By having a Waste Transfer Licence you can prove you will dispose of the waste yourself.
Quite literally the only thing you can do to get them off your back is provide them the waste operators licence number of the person/business that you have contracted to remove your waste. There have been numerous cases of this ending up in court and being a huge headache. I had a very similar experience where my business generated scrap metal and cardboard packaging waste - which i was being paid to have removed. However, the council simply refused to believe I wasn't also generating things like food waste due to my staff. I battled for a while, but it soon became apparently that the whole thing is a huge scam, and its like paying yet another tax on top of your business rates. You simply have to hire someone - not necessarily the council recommend contractor to remove your business waste.
I too, occasionally took waste to the recycling centre (the staff there were my customers too) and they knowingly turned a blind eye - however, it only takes one over zealous toss pot at the council to start issuing you with FPNs and court proceedings.
Bite the bullet, and swear at them under your breath.
I too, occasionally took waste to the recycling centre (the staff there were my customers too) and they knowingly turned a blind eye - however, it only takes one over zealous toss pot at the council to start issuing you with FPNs and court proceedings.
Bite the bullet, and swear at them under your breath.
£20 p/w seems like robbery. We pay about £45 a month for a big wheelie bin, in which pretty much everything (except the obvious hazardous stuff etc) goes. We don't create much in the way of recycling, but if we did I'm not sure I'd burn it (seems a bit like anti-recycling). I'd just lump it in with my home stuff, if I'm honest.
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