Plastic Manufacturing
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russy01

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211 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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Good Morning,

I have a requirement to manufacture a small & simple plastic item. Its no longer available to purchase (in the volume we require) and its a pain in the arse without them... Therefore I want to see if I can get them made (we'd be looking to get at least 10,000pcs made).

I have absolutely no experience or contacts in this industry, so would be grateful if any of you guys could push me in the right direction?

Thanks.

kev b

2,756 posts

196 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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You will need a tool to mould the part, how about contacting the supplier about purchasing theirs?


russy01

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Friday 30th December 2016
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I get more sense talking to brick wall.

Magic919

14,569 posts

231 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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This was just a quick Google result, Russ, but I think it's the sort of thing you want http://www.manumolding.co.uk/

russy01

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Magic919 said:
This was just a quick Google result, Russ, but I think it's the sort of thing you want http://www.manumolding.co.uk/
Thanks fella, currently looking at similar companies and putting together an email for them.

Smiler.

11,752 posts

260 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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The tooling is usually the expensive bit for small quantities but 10K pcs seems a fair volume.

Can you post a pic of the part?

russy01

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Approx 80mm tall.

andrewspencer200

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163 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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Scalextric flyover support?

I use these guys at work quite abit for similar stuff; http://www.protolabs.co.uk Might be worth giving them a call and asking, they are are very helpful and friendly.

Magic919

14,569 posts

231 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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Scalextric track supports I presume.

russy01

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Yes, its not exactly like this, but something along the lines...

Smiler.

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Doesn't look particularly complex but unless you can find a proactive manufacturer, you'll have to do the running.

I base this comment on recent dealings with a sheet metal fabricator.

I created the 3D models myself so cut out a large proportion of costly development (other than my time).


Drawing up the tooling for your part would be fairly straightforward but there's the actual plastic material needed & the actual machinery of the OEM to consider.

To give you some idea, a recent enquiry for a two-part crimp tool resulted in a quote of £900 - for a far, far simpler arrangement.

I think there is at least one PH'er who works with IM plastics.


Out of interest, why can't the original supplier meet the volumes you require?

robemcdonald

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226 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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It's been a while since I was involved in manufacturing, but don't think a run of 10k wouldn't be enough to justify injection moulding tooling costs.

You could make silicon moulds from the part and cast them in resin (you may have to do without the web in the middle)
For that sort of volume you could also look at getting them cast in aluminium (investment casting would be a possibility)

russy01

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Friday 30th December 2016
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Product is no longer in production, volume for them worldwide is obviously not enough to fart about with. But for us it could be worthwhile...

curlyks2

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176 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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ecs

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200 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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I used to be a design engineer years ago, this company would be the ones everyone would talk about when you needed plastic components moulding in lower volumes: https://www.protolabs.co.uk

stuthemong

2,534 posts

247 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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10,000 is a decent run IMO that warrants looking around.

I'd be looking east for that part for low price and it's simplicity.

Protolabs will want >50p / part, maybe £1 & 1.5k tooling. They don't really negotiate. Good quality though from soft tools.

Lob your CAD in and get prices from protolabs though, it's a.fast and slick quoting system, but these guys are expensive and sell on speed. I guess you'd do better finding alternative suppliers based more on price than speed. We use a few in the UK, they do exist.


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russy01

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Friday 30th December 2016
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Thanks for your help, drawing it up now.

aceparts

3,724 posts

271 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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Contact Dugdale Plastics in Margate area. Mark is probably the man who is currently making them. He did a lot of Hornby work.

russy01

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Friday 30th December 2016
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Cheers, I'll give him a bell. Although as for current production, there isn't any. They have not been made for years, they were replaced with an inferior product which is now out of stock for months...

Sketched the product up in cad this afternoon and popped across to protolabs - I had a proof and quote within an hour. Prices seem reasonable, but not knowing anything about this type of work I'm not sure how it compares to a local etc. I'll stick my drawing around a few places and see what happens...

Thanks.

VEX

5,259 posts

276 months

Friday 30th December 2016
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Could it be re-engineered so that it could be cut from a flat sheet and slotted together?

If so I have a uk manufacturer that could do it.

V