Do I want VoIP?
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Josho

Original Poster:

748 posts

127 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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I work on my own in a garage. Do want to take another mechanic on next year.

Anyway my phone goes off A LOT.

I miss so many calls due to the fact I'm under a car covered in grease and don't like getting out, taking my gloves off getting my phone rushing there and then get "you've been in an accident sir please".

Now a lot of customers just deal with my wife on her number which is great.

What I want however is a system that will ring both our phones and she can just forward me the call if I need to take it or she can just deal with it if it's a booking.

I don't have a landline but do have a WiFi hotspot.

It would be handy to have a call holding system too. I can stick a TV up with a screen so I can see who's calling not a prob.

It may sound like a minor inconvienience but it's irritating some customers as it's so difficult to try and manage 40 odd calls a day while flat out busy!

Dilligaf10

2,431 posts

240 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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We run a Private Hire/Chauffeur company and when we bought out another company from a different dial code area we went to VoIP.

Customers ring the landline which diverts straight to my wife’s mobile, if that doesn’t answer it bounces onto my mobile, which in turn goes to a voicemail. All of our regular clients know we don’t take calls whilst they are travelling so just leave a message. A lot depends on the voicemail message you leave but we appear not to lose many calls/clients.

Customers will have no idea it’s a virtual phone either.

Hope this helps.

Edited to add: Have you thought about a voice activated headset/earpiece where you can just answer Yes or No to accept or decline calls.

Josho

Original Poster:

748 posts

127 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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Cheers mate whats the cost and which company can you recommend?

red_slr

20,806 posts

219 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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We use Voipfone. Its excellent.

Cost is minimal we have 4 phones in the office and one at home. All ring on the same call group but can DND / Divert / whatever.

We have an intro audio loop so customers get opening times etc whilst the phone is ringing our end. We also set our open / closed hours so when we are closed they get a message saying we are closed. Also voice mail.

Total cost is about £3 per line inc VAT.

Handsets cost about £100 each, come pre set up - PnP.

We record all calls and have a calling package so our monthly cost is about £60-£100+VAT but for a similar service using traditional telephones would be way more.

We used fiverr.com for the audio stuff.


akirk

5,778 posts

144 months

Wednesday 13th December 2017
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I can also vouch for voipfone - very helpful company as well as being good value

48k

17,501 posts

178 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Another voipfone user here. Good value and it just works.

Big E 118

2,468 posts

199 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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We installed a VoIP system last year, we're an office of 10 people. The versatility of the system is great and cost have reduced slightly.

I was advised by my IT guy to always use the same provider for both broadband and VoIP as he has come across a lot of cases where companies use different providers and if something goes wrong the broadband company will blame the VoIP provider and vice versa. With one company you have one point of contact.


trickywoo

14,221 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Big E 118 said:
I was advised by my IT guy to always use the same provider for both broadband and VoIP as he has come across a lot of cases where companies use different providers and if something goes wrong the broadband company will blame the VoIP provider and vice versa. With one company you have one point of contact.
Good advice but please be aware it does not apply to BT Broadband and BT Cloud Phone. I had both and the Cloud Phone was basically useless on the BT Broadband, dropping calls within seconds of starting a call and generally very poor quality. This was on a business fibre line too.

The Cloud Phone worked perfectly on my home Virgin broadband. Not unreasonably BT Cloud Phone said it was the Broadband and the BT Broadband said it was the Phone and said they would come out and charge me when they found nothing wrong. Absolutely dire service from the BT Broadband, which I cancelled. The BT Cloud phone works OK although I use it mainly in the divert to mobile function.

Just as a further FYI BT Broadband will tell you that you have to have a BT Broadband account to use BT Cloud Phone and be quite aggressive about it too. This is not correct. You do need BT Broadband to use a BT voip desk phone but not for the BT Cloud App and the contracts are not linked.

One other possible consideration is that if you want to keep the number and move providers not all have the ability / licence to transfer the number at will.

red_slr

20,806 posts

219 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Given the size of the OPs business (2 people) I suspect that wont be an issue so long as he has decent broad band.

We have 80/20 ADSL+2 and we often have 4 lines on the go plus everyone using the web and its no issue.

I think the codec they use requires about 3mb/s per line for "HD" call quality. I don't know the bit rate but its defo ok for us.

Just checked you need (at least) 128kb/s both up and down per call according to their technical guide. We have never had an issue our BB is with BT FWIW.

Edited by red_slr on Thursday 14th December 12:49

dmsims

7,454 posts

297 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Typically voice data usage is in the tens of kbps

hast2

174 posts

242 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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Would you be looking for something like EE Pocket Landline?

They can supply a Local Landline Phone Number that is then forwarded to your EE mobile (you can have up to 10 mobile numbers) costs are around £10 to £15 a month on top of their business mobile contracts.

I'm sure other Mobile Operators will do similar schemes.

I was just looking at this 5 minutes ago as I was wanting a virtual landline number for a business I'm looking to start early next year - I thought it would add an element of credibility to the business.

red_slr

20,806 posts

219 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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dmsims said:
Typically voice data usage is in the tens of kbps
I think voipfone use .711 which needs about 150Kb/s up IIRC... or is it kb not sure cant remember now, its the up that's the issue in most cases. IYSWIM.


trickywoo

14,221 posts

260 months

Thursday 14th December 2017
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When my BT Cloud Phone wouldn't work with my BT Broadband I was the only one connected and using no bandwidth of 40 mbps.

It was clearly some kind of broadband issue but BT couldn't have cared less.

jamoor

14,506 posts

245 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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Well you can get a hosted version of 3cx or just use voipfone.

Install an app on your phone and have a bluetooth headset, then you can answer calls on t he go.

Yipper

5,964 posts

120 months

Friday 15th December 2017
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Cyberprog

2,325 posts

213 months

Sunday 17th December 2017
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if you want good broadband, and good VOIP, then speak to Andrews & Arnold - www.aaisp.net - they are not the cheapest, but you get what you pay for...