New outbuilding holiday let? - Permitted Development?!
New outbuilding holiday let? - Permitted Development?!
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IceBoy

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2,455 posts

251 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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Hi All,

I have a very large garden with parking for many cars and wondered if it is allowable under permitted development to build a holiday type short-term let (air bnb style) under permitted development?

I have been told by a friend (architect) that I can build a detached building on my land and use it for my own use, gym, pool house, home office etc....but am not sure how this would work if I let it out?

Anybody done this or looked in to?

I will obviously get a professional involved at some stage....but just wonder what others may have done.

Thanks All.
IceBoy


BoRED S2upid

21,072 posts

270 months

Tuesday 20th February 2018
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I’m pretty sure as soon as you can live in it ie toilet, kitchen, bathroom it all changed full planning plus possibly enhanced council tax. Pool house, gym, office no problem but nobody’s going to pay you to camp in the home office.

KevinCamaroSS

13,848 posts

310 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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As a separate dwelling you would certainly open yourself up to a second council tax charge, would also likely need planning permission as well.

brrapp

3,701 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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A few of my neighbours are jumping on the 'shepherds hut' bandwagon. ie as long as it's mobile, you don't need permission. So in theory you could just have a mobile home in your garden (as long as it wasn't being used as a permanent residence), but who wants a caravan in the garden?
Some are buying revamped antique gypsy caravans, some doing revamped shepherds huts, some are getting new replica old stuff. One of my neighbours just bought a set of old cart wheels and axles, stuck them on a caravan chassis, and built a shed on it. Lots of scope there, especially if you rent via airb&b which cuts out some of the red tape.

Equus

16,980 posts

131 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Only three replies, and already a lot o bks being spouted...

Planning is first and foremost about land use.

You are living in a house that has established rights of use under planning use Class C3a (residential).

As the Planning Portal will tell you, C3(a) covers "use by a single person or a family (a couple whether married or not, a person related to one another with members of the family of one of the couple to be treated as members of the family of the other), an employer and certain domestic employees (such as an au pair, nanny, nurse, governess, servant, chauffeur, gardener, secretary and personal assistant), a carer and the person receiving the care and a foster parent and foster child."

Residential Permitted Development Rights are all contingent upon the use of any development being for the enjoyment of the household as defined above.

Short answer: you need Planning Permission for secondary holiday letting, regardless of bogs or kitchens, regardless of whether it's a hut on wheels.

Of course, if nobody reports you, Planning are unlikely to find out or take enforcement action, but that doesn't affect the legality of the situation.


brrapp

3,701 posts

192 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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Equus said:
Only three replies, and already a lot o bks being spouted...

Planning is first and foremost about land use.

You are living in a house that has established rights of use under planning use Class C3a (residential).

As the Planning Portal will tell you, C3(a) covers "use by a single person or a family (a couple whether married or not, a person related to one another with members of the family of one of the couple to be treated as members of the family of the other), an employer and certain domestic employees (such as an au pair, nanny, nurse, governess, servant, chauffeur, gardener, secretary and personal assistant), a carer and the person receiving the care and a foster parent and foster child."

Residential Permitted Development Rights are all contingent upon the use of any development being for the enjoyment of the household as defined above.

Short answer: you need Planning Permission for secondary holiday letting, regardless of bogs or kitchens, regardless of whether it's a hut on wheels.

Of course, if nobody reports you, Planning are unlikely to find out or take enforcement action, but that doesn't affect the legalifty of the situation.

Just stating what a lot of people round here are doing, regardless of legality. From your very informed post, I understand that siting of a mobile home/cabin/shepherds hut in a garden isn't in itself illegal. Just use of it other than by a member of the household?
Probably why most of the ones let them via Airb&b, very little accountability.

Equus

16,980 posts

131 months

Wednesday 21st February 2018
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brrapp said:
From your very informed post, I understand that siting of a mobile home/cabin/shepherds hut in a garden isn't in itself illegal. Just use of it other than by a member of the household?
Correct.

Though there are other rules and case law around mobile homes/caravans/shepherd's huts, and, of course Permitted Development rights for outbuildings, so just because it's mobile and/or used solely for the enjoyment of the dwellinghouse doesn't make it a complete free-for-all.