First time employer...
Discussion
Afternoon all.
My new business is finally about to open imminently, and I've found some staff, yay.
I have run several businesses but never needed to actually employ people, so am hoping to get some advice from the more seasoned amongst you.
I have 2 people who are going to work for me as self employed, so that's a bonus, they'll get £2 more an hour so everyone's happy.
I will however need approx 4x casual "zero hours contract" part time workers.
They will work no more than 3 days a week - and therefore not hit the auto-enrolment threshold - 2nd bonus.
Next though I need a foolproof way to log hours, tax, NI, submit etc etc, and don't want to have to pay an agency fee for this as it's very ah-hoc and seasonal work, so don't want to be stuck on an "£X per month per employee" type contract.
So, I assume there's some sort of software out there that can basically take care of this, given I throw in the hours worked and £x per hour, it does the rest??
My new business is finally about to open imminently, and I've found some staff, yay.
I have run several businesses but never needed to actually employ people, so am hoping to get some advice from the more seasoned amongst you.
I have 2 people who are going to work for me as self employed, so that's a bonus, they'll get £2 more an hour so everyone's happy.
I will however need approx 4x casual "zero hours contract" part time workers.
They will work no more than 3 days a week - and therefore not hit the auto-enrolment threshold - 2nd bonus.
Next though I need a foolproof way to log hours, tax, NI, submit etc etc, and don't want to have to pay an agency fee for this as it's very ah-hoc and seasonal work, so don't want to be stuck on an "£X per month per employee" type contract.
So, I assume there's some sort of software out there that can basically take care of this, given I throw in the hours worked and £x per hour, it does the rest??
AFAICS any basic payroll system will let you do that.
You need to set them up on a zero hours contract, punch in the hours worked each week/month, and the system will generate payslips as well as reports that you need to file with HMRC.
Is that what you're looking for?
ETA: Iris Payroll basics is a free one that I use. However you need to know your way around a payroll system as there is zero after sales support/advice/training.
You need to set them up on a zero hours contract, punch in the hours worked each week/month, and the system will generate payslips as well as reports that you need to file with HMRC.
Is that what you're looking for?
ETA: Iris Payroll basics is a free one that I use. However you need to know your way around a payroll system as there is zero after sales support/advice/training.
Countdown said:
AFAICS any basic payroll system will let you do that.
You need to set them up on a zero hours contract, punch in the hours worked each week/month, and the system will generate payslips as well as reports that you need to file with HMRC.
Is that what you're looking for?
Yes - Exactly what I need. You need to set them up on a zero hours contract, punch in the hours worked each week/month, and the system will generate payslips as well as reports that you need to file with HMRC.
Is that what you're looking for?
Any recommendations gratefully received - as a Startup, the cheaper (or free-er) the better :-)
User name said:
Yes - Exactly what I need.
Any recommendations gratefully received - as a Startup, the cheaper (or free-er) the better :-)
As I said Iris Payroll basics is free but it would be a PITA for anybody without payroll experience to set up, and there are quite a few reporting requirements.Any recommendations gratefully received - as a Startup, the cheaper (or free-er) the better :-)
If you speak to a friendly accountant or bookkeeper they may be able to run it for you for £5/payslip (plus initial setup costs)?
It's a bit like working on your own car. Some people are happy to strip down and repair a CVT gearbox whereas others would feel much happier taking it to the franchised dealer for a puncture replacement. I hope that makes sense
If you’re going to employ them you need to think about
- registering with HMRC as an employer
- submitting payment details to HMRC each month using Basic PAYE tools, and printing payslips
- Employers Liability Insurance (don’t forget to display the certificate..)
- Have a contract of employment, and policies (grievance policy, IT policy etc). Some companies sell these as downloads.
- are they claiming expenses? P11d forms will be needed too
- registering with HMRC as an employer
- submitting payment details to HMRC each month using Basic PAYE tools, and printing payslips
- Employers Liability Insurance (don’t forget to display the certificate..)
- Have a contract of employment, and policies (grievance policy, IT policy etc). Some companies sell these as downloads.
- are they claiming expenses? P11d forms will be needed too
PurpleMoonlight said:
User name said:
I will however need approx 4x casual "zero hours contract" part time workers.
They will work no more than 3 days a week - and therefore not hit the auto-enrolment threshold - 2nd bonus.
They can still demand to be enrolled though.They will work no more than 3 days a week - and therefore not hit the auto-enrolment threshold - 2nd bonus.
User name said:
I didn't know that, can you elaborate? They can demand to be enrolled on a pension scheme even if I don't have or offer one?
Yes, and you have to have one available even if you don't have to auto enroll anyone.I believe you can refuse if their earnings are below the lower threshold.
http://www.thepensionsregulator.gov.uk/automatic-e...
I use a company called moneysoft.co.uk. They have a product Payroll Manager 20 which is for small businesses. It is £65 a year and I simply enter my employees earnings each month and it produces a payslip for them all.
It is basically plug and play
I have a number of employees who do other jobs and HMRC provide a payroll code for them all, some have no tax deducted some have their tax allowance split between me and another employer and some get billed full tax from me. I just go on what HMRC provide but as stated on earlier posts you will need to contact HMRC to set yourself up as a new employer and get an employers ref.
For pensions I use Nest. It’s free....
It is basically plug and play
I have a number of employees who do other jobs and HMRC provide a payroll code for them all, some have no tax deducted some have their tax allowance split between me and another employer and some get billed full tax from me. I just go on what HMRC provide but as stated on earlier posts you will need to contact HMRC to set yourself up as a new employer and get an employers ref.
For pensions I use Nest. It’s free....
catcha said:
I use a company called moneysoft.co.uk. They have a product Payroll Manager 20 which is for small businesses. It is £65 a year and I simply enter my employees earnings each month and it produces a payslip for them all.
It is basically plug and play
I have a number of employees who do other jobs and HMRC provide a payroll code for them all, some have no tax deducted some have their tax allowance split between me and another employer and some get billed full tax from me. I just go on what HMRC provide but as stated on earlier posts you will need to contact HMRC to set yourself up as a new employer and get an employers ref.
For pensions I use Nest. It’s free....
Awesome! Thanks, I'll have a look at that...It is basically plug and play
I have a number of employees who do other jobs and HMRC provide a payroll code for them all, some have no tax deducted some have their tax allowance split between me and another employer and some get billed full tax from me. I just go on what HMRC provide but as stated on earlier posts you will need to contact HMRC to set yourself up as a new employer and get an employers ref.
For pensions I use Nest. It’s free....
I've got a few weeks before the business kicks off, but need to pull my finger out.
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