Cybercurrency mining
Cybercurrency mining
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User name

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2,354 posts

200 months

Monday 16th April 2018
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Unless you live under a rock that's under another rock, you will have heard about Bitcoin and the like.
And the associated process of "Mining".

Is this still a viable business?

Mining Bitcoin itself is pointless exercise now due to increasing complexity, but the newer cryptocurrencies such as Litecoin and Monero are likely to skyrocket in value soon.




Edited by User name on Tuesday 17th April 15:46

Busterhighmen

365 posts

179 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Crypto

budgie smuggler

6,071 posts

189 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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Can you get free electricity? If the answer to that is yes, then maybe, otherwise most likely no.

anonymous-user

84 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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mining profitablity is low, there is a glut of miners.

A barebones gpu rig (6x1080) will be 3.5-4k gdp, daily returns about 8 dollars a day. Roi about a year and a half, with it running 24\7 which is easier said than done.

You can 'hire' your hashrate to nicehash, payouts in btc, or choose an alt coin to mine and hope it x10 in value.

Gpu risers fail and a cost as well to take account.

Electricity cost will be 50-70gdp a month.

Handy tool here. https://whattomine.com/coins

you can solo mine which is greater risk to reward most pool mine, share hash, share reward.



Edited by Thesprucegoose on Tuesday 17th April 14:45

TooLateForAName

4,933 posts

214 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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User name said:
... the newer cryptocurrencies such as Litecoin and Monero are likely to skyrocket in value soon.
rofl

wheelerc

228 posts

172 months

Tuesday 17th April 2018
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At the moment GPU prices are high and crypto prices are (relatively) low, so if you think prices will go up just buy the crypto currencies. I'd recommend BTC BCH & ETH. Be prepared for them to lose value of you mine or buy.

andyb28

1,165 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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I have 3 x rigs (24 graphics cards in total). I was fortunate enough to build them whilst GPU prices were low.

Recently I switched one of the rigs to Monero, whilst the other two are mining Ethereum.
Monero recently became ASIC (CPU) resistant, which is great for the GPU miners. This is a huge bold move by Monero. The value of it has been rising, however Eth and Btc have also been going up, so I have no idea if its related.

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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have you worked out what you would have made if you had just bought the coins?

andyb28

1,165 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
have you worked out what you would have made if you had just bought the coins?
With the massive dips, I think I would have lost out.
I did make a few quid in the bull run at the end of last year smile

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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the biggest cost for me was electricity, i underestimated and paid 70-100 quid a month on my one rig. Duel mining helped profitability. I sold it but still thinking about building another.

andyb28

1,165 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Thesprucegoose said:
the biggest cost for me was electricity, i underestimated and paid 70-100 quid a month on my one rig. Duel mining helped profitability. I sold it but still thinking about building another.
If you went with gtx cards before, I would say go with RX570 or 580 this time, there is so much more you can do with them by loading a bios file with the settings rather than playing around with overclocking tools. Also, they are a lot cheaper and prices from my suppliers seem to be getting cheaper all the time.

Pot Bellied Fool

2,264 posts

267 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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andyb28 said:
If you went with gtx cards before, I would say go with RX570 or 580 this time, there is so much more you can do with them by loading a bios file with the settings rather than playing around with overclocking tools. Also, they are a lot cheaper and prices from my suppliers seem to be getting cheaper all the time.
Any pointers on not-too-extortionate suppliers? smile

User name

Original Poster:

2,354 posts

200 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Luckily I still have some trade accounts with IT distributors.

I'm really tempted to throw £2k at a rig (6x RX580's) but looking at the current potential gains, the only real money looks to be in MASS mining.
this potential setup should yield around 4-5KH/s, which should yield around 1XMR (Monero) a month - not enough to cover the electric, let alone the hardware.

However, then there's the "Long game" , i.e mining small amounts now, in the hope that they follow suit with Bitcoin's massive rise.



Edited by User name on Wednesday 18th April 16:59

budgie smuggler

6,071 posts

189 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Why not just buy it though?

User name

Original Poster:

2,354 posts

200 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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budgie smuggler said:
Why not just buy it though?
Because that's no fun is it ?

:-)

skinnyman

1,895 posts

123 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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I have 12 RX570's on my rig. They cost £120/mth to run, so after electricity costs I'm making around £120-£150/mth at current prices.

The issue with mining now is 3 fold. Mining difficulty is up, card prices are up, coin prices are down.

When I started the cards were £200ea, and Ethereum difficulty was half what it is now, and the price was $1200.

So the cards cost more, you get half as many coins, and they're worth 1/3rd what they were from back in Jan.

However, they're still making £100+ per month just sat in my garage churning away, and as with all things crypto, the prices fluctuate massively. By Christmas Ethereum could be $3k, or $30, there's just no way of knowing

anonymous-user

84 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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At that rate 24 months to roi on graphics cards...

andyb28

1,165 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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Pot Bellied Fool said:
Any pointers on not-too-extortionate suppliers? smile
Just shop about on the usual suspects, Scan, Ebuyer, Etc.
The prices are getting closer to what they were last year.

If you are buying 6 or 8, call them up, they are usually up for a deal.

andyb28

1,165 posts

148 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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User name said:
Luckily I still have some trade accounts with IT distributors.

I'm really tempted to throw £2k at a rig (6x RX580's) but looking at the current potential gains, the only real money looks to be in MASS mining.
this potential setup should yield around 4-5KH/s, which should yield around 1XMR (Monero) a month - not enough to cover the electric, let alone the hardware.

However, then there's the "Long game" , i.e mining small amounts now, in the hope that they follow suit with Bitcoin's massive rise.



Edited by User name on Wednesday 18th April 16:59
One other thing to bear in mind...
They generate a shed load of heat. This was fine in the winter, it is not so fine now.

skinnyman

1,895 posts

123 months

Wednesday 18th April 2018
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andyb28 said:
User name said:
Luckily I still have some trade accounts with IT distributors.

I'm really tempted to throw £2k at a rig (6x RX580's) but looking at the current potential gains, the only real money looks to be in MASS mining.
this potential setup should yield around 4-5KH/s, which should yield around 1XMR (Monero) a month - not enough to cover the electric, let alone the hardware.

However, then there's the "Long game" , i.e mining small amounts now, in the hope that they follow suit with Bitcoin's massive rise.



Edited by User name on Wednesday 18th April 16:59
One other thing to bear in mind...
They generate a shed load of heat. This was fine in the winter, it is not so fine now.
This too. Over winter my fan cards ran at 30% to maintain 60c, today they were running 60% with one needing 80%. It did make the garage nice and toasty for the rabbit over winter though