Setting up DD`s as the payee - missing something
Setting up DD`s as the payee - missing something
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DSLiverpool

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16,532 posts

232 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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The lovely guy at the bank has made this no clearer than ever but we have a few clients that want to pay by DD monthly for a 2.5% discount but do I send them a form with our details to give to their bank or ask them to fill in a form to give to our bank - or anything in-between.

Can someone explain as if they were talking to a 10 year old please

Fore Left

1,618 posts

212 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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They give it to their bank. Your bank then requests the amount. You have to tell your bank what to collect. You must tell your clients the date & amount that will be taken in advance. If they're not (happy) they can request the money back.

www.directdebit.co.uk said:
What is Direct Debit?

Simply, a Direct Debit is an instruction from you to your bank or building society. It authorises the organisation you want to pay to collect varying amounts from your account – but only if you’ve been given advanced notice of the amounts and dates of collection.
https://www.directdebit.co.uk/DirectDebitExplained...

Strudul

1,599 posts

115 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Slight tangent, but is it possible for a direct debit to be setup to a personal account and is there any charge associated?

akirk

5,778 posts

144 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Fore Left said:
They give it to their bank. Your bank then requests the amount. You have to tell your bank what to collect. You must tell your clients the date & amount that will be taken in advance. If they're not (happy) they can request the money back.
In every DD I have set up I fill in the form as an instruction to my bank...
but then pass it onto the company to whom I am paying my DD - I don't give it to my bank
That company can then set up that DD, but as far as I am aware, they don't pass that paperwork onto anyone either - it is simply the mandate for the DD, and evidence for them to show that I agreed to it...

MWM3

1,880 posts

152 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Are you getting mixed up between direct debits and standing orders?


DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

16,532 posts

232 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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Thanks chaps were trying to do an online dd process

MWM3

1,880 posts

152 months

Friday 20th April 2018
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DSLiverpool said:
Thanks chaps were trying to do an online dd process
If you do want to do DD and not SO you'll need to sign up with a provider to become a DD originator.

RM

686 posts

127 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Have a look at gocardless

Thankyou4calling

11,024 posts

203 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Go cardless is very good as above.

You can’t just set up a DD you need to be approved by a bank which isn’t easy as a DD allows you to dip into people’s account and take money!

Go cardless are efficient and cost effective.

anonymous-user

84 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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We use Gocardless with about 75 clients.

One limitation is that the standard limit is £5k, so if the invoices are going to be higher than that you're going to need to negotiate that with GC on a client-by-client basis.

GC also links to Xero, so paid invoices are automatically marked as such and reconciled.

Countdown

49,519 posts

226 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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DSLiverpool said:
The lovely guy at the bank has made this no clearer than ever but we have a few clients that want to pay by DD monthly for a 2.5% discount but do I send them a form with our details to give to their bank or ask them to fill in a form to give to our bank - or anything in-between.

Can someone explain as if they were talking to a 10 year old please
You need to have a system set up in order to be able to request DD payments. When i used to work in prpoerty management we used something called AUDDIS

https://www.smartdebit.co.uk/auddis-explained-adva...

As others have said Gocardless is probably easier for smaller organisations.

https://gocardless.com/direct-debit/payments/

Alternatively you customers could just set up a monthly Standing Order. The difference between am SO and a DD - you have to request a DD each month whereas with an SO it pays automatically. Also with a DD you can request whatever amount you like so it's more useful than an SO if payments are going to be variable ( but bear in mind it's subject to the DD guarantee.).

DSLiverpool

Original Poster:

16,532 posts

232 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Thanks all, far far more complicated than the idiot at the bank described.
He just gave me a form to give to a client.
Nothing over £5k yet but I live in hope!

skilly1

2,905 posts

225 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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Another vote for Go Cardless. Very simple and cheap, we have 450 users on it.

akirk

5,778 posts

144 months

Saturday 21st April 2018
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DSLiverpool said:
Thanks all, far far more complicated than the idiot at the bank described.
He just gave me a form to give to a client.
Nothing over £5k yet but I live in hope!
if you were given a form with instructions for the client to hand it to their bank, that sounds like a standing order, an instruction for the client's bank to pay you a fixed amount of money at a regular interval, (eg monthly)

DD gives you the right to request money from the client's bank account, but while more flexible it has more strings attached to it...