Temporary Event Notice's
Discussion
A social enterprise that I am involved with is a specialty coffee shop, and they are looking to host a live music evening. The premises is unlicensed, in that it doesn't sell alcohol, and they have no interest in doing that (for now).
Having looked at our local council, most of the reading is about alcohol - but I think the venue needs a temporary event notice? Can anyone shed some light, or point me towards some more learned reading?
Cheers!
Having looked at our local council, most of the reading is about alcohol - but I think the venue needs a temporary event notice? Can anyone shed some light, or point me towards some more learned reading?
Cheers!
You will find a TEN application form on your local council website and many will allow you to apply online with 10 days notice. If you are doing alcohol its worth finding someone local who has a personal licence to keep you on the right side of the law as getting it wrong can be expensive.
Yes applying is simple. Even the alcohol bit is simple, although you need to tihnk about the weights and measures rules relating to alcoholic drinks.
Easiest solution is to just buy crown marked glasses for beer, and marked for wine as well, and just sell beer and wine, and maybe something like Pimms.
Easiest solution is to just buy crown marked glasses for beer, and marked for wine as well, and just sell beer and wine, and maybe something like Pimms.
IIRC Any premises needs a premises licence if they are providing late night hot food and drinks
Presuming the café doesn't open late as a rule, they wouldn't need a premises licence
If they intend to serve hot food and drink between 11pm & 5am on this specific evening then they would have to apply for a Temporary Events Notice (TEN).
At least those are the rules as I understand them in the Kirklees Council area
Presuming the café doesn't open late as a rule, they wouldn't need a premises licence
If they intend to serve hot food and drink between 11pm & 5am on this specific evening then they would have to apply for a Temporary Events Notice (TEN).
At least those are the rules as I understand them in the Kirklees Council area
bungalow said:
As others have said, a TENS is only needed to extend the hours on a premises license, if you're only serving food, coffees etc then you should be good, maybe check your lease (if you have one) to double check that there isn't any restrictions on operating hours.
Sorry, that's wrong. A TEN is used to license a temporary event anywhere. Think of it as a 48 hour temporary license for whatever activities are taking place be it sale of alcohol, performance or playing of music, showing a film or even wrestling. Can't remember if it includes strippers though... long time since I used a TEN.Music, whether it be live or recorded is classified as a licensible activity and would therefore require a TEN. Assuming the premises is licensed for the provision of supplying refreshments should mean a fairly easy process of gaining the TEN but the local authority/ police may take particular interest depending on the premises location.
I would be inclined to get some advice from the local authority licensing manager to clarify fully; in my experience they are very approachable and helpful.
I would be inclined to get some advice from the local authority licensing manager to clarify fully; in my experience they are very approachable and helpful.
Unless the venue already has one, you'll also need a PPL:
https://www.prsformusic.com/what-we-do/who-we-work...
https://www.prsformusic.com/what-we-do/who-we-work...
Having given many TENs in my life, a small point of order: one does not *apply* for a TEN; one gives notice to the local authority. There is a presumptive right to go ahead unless the authority validly objects. If the authority were not to get back to you in time, you could technically go ahead despite not receiving a piece of paper from them (I wouldn't however!). If you do have the piece of paper from them, remember you have to display it (the original, not a copy, and not a picture on your phone) at the premises during the event otherwise it is not valid.
If you apply later than 10 *working* days (not 10 calendar days, and note that the 10 days cannot include either the day you submit nor the day of the event itself) but less than 5 working days then you can make what is called a "late TEN" but that one does *not* carry with it the same presumptive right to proceed in the absence of notification (so the Council / Police could turn up on the night). There's a (much smaller) limit to the number of "late TENs" you can give in a year.
Having a personal licence holder around is good even if no alcohol - because you're showing that you're putting a responsible person in play.
Be aware that the intention of TENs (which was laudable) has been derailed by many councils who now include planning as a ground for objection / refusal. The original idea of central Government was deliberately to allow "unusual" or "unconventional" venues to be used for entertainment purposes. But many councils now refuse on the grounds that the use (entertainment) is not within the planning uses for which permission has been given for the property (thus de-clawing the whole system).
The upshot is this - give your notice as far in advance as you possibly can. Also give very careful consideration to how you word the form - you should lay it on thick how you will be careful of loss of amenity to local residents, keep doors closed, monitor noise levels, and so on.
There are other quirks. Performance of theatre is no longer a licensable activity (provided not more than 499 people are watching it), but music is not so. Performing a musical? That can get tricky!
Make sure you get the numbers of people correct - the TEN includes everybody there (including staff, doormen, etc. etc.) and you need to keep accurate control over numbers (and be able to demonstrate same - so I would always have somebody on the door with 2 "clickers" to count those coming in and those leaving).
Make sure your risk assessments are up to scratch - many EHOs use TEN applications as a trigger for visits, especially because the assumption is that (a) there will be more people and (b) less lighting than usual, hence perceived higher risk.
If you intend on doing many of these I highly recommend you consider applying for an actual premises license for the property. Many councils will use your performance with one / a few TENs as a sort of "audition" for those. Also recall that TENs can be used to extend hours on an existing license.
Anyhow, don't want to go on too long. If you need any help by all means send me a message.
If you apply later than 10 *working* days (not 10 calendar days, and note that the 10 days cannot include either the day you submit nor the day of the event itself) but less than 5 working days then you can make what is called a "late TEN" but that one does *not* carry with it the same presumptive right to proceed in the absence of notification (so the Council / Police could turn up on the night). There's a (much smaller) limit to the number of "late TENs" you can give in a year.
Having a personal licence holder around is good even if no alcohol - because you're showing that you're putting a responsible person in play.
Be aware that the intention of TENs (which was laudable) has been derailed by many councils who now include planning as a ground for objection / refusal. The original idea of central Government was deliberately to allow "unusual" or "unconventional" venues to be used for entertainment purposes. But many councils now refuse on the grounds that the use (entertainment) is not within the planning uses for which permission has been given for the property (thus de-clawing the whole system).
The upshot is this - give your notice as far in advance as you possibly can. Also give very careful consideration to how you word the form - you should lay it on thick how you will be careful of loss of amenity to local residents, keep doors closed, monitor noise levels, and so on.
There are other quirks. Performance of theatre is no longer a licensable activity (provided not more than 499 people are watching it), but music is not so. Performing a musical? That can get tricky!
Make sure you get the numbers of people correct - the TEN includes everybody there (including staff, doormen, etc. etc.) and you need to keep accurate control over numbers (and be able to demonstrate same - so I would always have somebody on the door with 2 "clickers" to count those coming in and those leaving).
Make sure your risk assessments are up to scratch - many EHOs use TEN applications as a trigger for visits, especially because the assumption is that (a) there will be more people and (b) less lighting than usual, hence perceived higher risk.
If you intend on doing many of these I highly recommend you consider applying for an actual premises license for the property. Many councils will use your performance with one / a few TENs as a sort of "audition" for those. Also recall that TENs can be used to extend hours on an existing license.
Anyhow, don't want to go on too long. If you need any help by all means send me a message.
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