Hand Car Wash Business
Hand Car Wash Business
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The Moose

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23,684 posts

239 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Does anyone here run a hand car wash business? If so, any chance of a chat?!

I have come across a possible opportunity to start a hand car wash. Obviously some stuff will be different (as I am likely on the other side of the pond), but some stuff will be the same.

Shaw Tarse

31,900 posts

233 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Money laundering?

The Moose

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23,684 posts

239 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Shaw Tarse said:
Money laundering?
That’s what my dry cleaners business is for wink

Glasgowrob

3,349 posts

151 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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theres a few different types

the money laundering front, - quiet no interest in actually washing cars. owner invariably drives an RS3 or a clingy rangerover.

the cheap and cheerful - surviving on sheer volume. our local one is like this. £3/4 a wash in and out as quick as you can.

the proper car wash -, run by detailers. proper safe wash and take a ridiculous amount of pride in their work offering washes as a sideline to their detailing work. 2 bucket method and general bearding all round

The Moose

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23,684 posts

239 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Glasgowrob said:
theres a few different types

the money laundering front, - quiet no interest in actually washing cars. owner invariably drives an RS3 or a clingy rangerover.

the cheap and cheerful - surviving on sheer volume. our local one is like this. £3/4 a wash in and out as quick as you can.

the proper car wash -, run by detailers. proper safe wash and take a ridiculous amount of pride in their work offering washes as a sideline to their detailing work. 2 bucket method and general bearding all round
The middle option is more what I had in mind. Think similar to those that wash vehicles in the parking lots of Sainsburys/Tesco etc

Think offering a go over of the outside of the vehicle and an option of a quick hover and wipe down of the interior too

Shaw Tarse

31,900 posts

233 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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The Moose said:
The middle option is more what I had in mind. Think similar to those that wash vehicles in the parking lots of Sainsburys/Tesco etc

Think offering a go over of the outside of the vehicle and an option of a quick hover and wipe down of the interior too
The wash while you shop ones seem to be disappearing?
I'm not sure how the in & out ones make a profit, if they are on a water meter, pay for "chemicals" wages etc

Some Guy

2,674 posts

121 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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The Moose

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239 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Some Guy said:
Don’t be silly. You can’t wash cars in denim - it scratches the paintwork.

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The Moose

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239 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Shaw Tarse said:
The Moose said:
The middle option is more what I had in mind. Think similar to those that wash vehicles in the parking lots of Sainsburys/Tesco etc

Think offering a go over of the outside of the vehicle and an option of a quick hover and wipe down of the interior too
The wash while you shop ones seem to be disappearing?
I'm not sure how the in & out ones make a profit, if they are on a water meter, pay for "chemicals" wages etc
Last time I was in the UK, they were popular.

The alternate option is a waterless wash which seems to be getting more and more popular?

PBDirector

1,049 posts

160 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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I know the square root of eff all about this, but my concern going into this (or at least my starting assumption) is that the stand-alone ones that make money do so because they’re staffed by a family of Moldovans living 20 up to a house and their interpretation of the law is different to yours.

For a few years I lived the other side of a party wall to a group of polish guys who lived in the same house in 3 shifts working for the same employer. The day they moved in, they were building out bunk beds in all the rooms.

aka_kerrly

12,506 posts

240 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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The Moose said:
The middle option is more what I had in mind. Think similar to those that wash vehicles in the parking lots of Sainsburys/Tesco etc
Hahaha, you mean your payimg double the price for a st car wash because its in a Tesco and not an old petrol station.

how much extra would you pay some guys to throw some dirty rags at your car in Waitrose.


Leggy

1,029 posts

252 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Best of luck. Struggle to see how you can make any decent money from these. Here as already mentioned run by foreign workers being paid very low wages.
I think they will disappear in time as they move on to other ways to make a living. Already witnessed one being raided by immigration recently.
There is £5 automated car wash near me that’s really good. I’d rather trust that than buckets and rags.

red_slr

20,854 posts

219 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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Some Guy said:
Apt user name..


HOGEPH

5,249 posts

216 months

Sunday 8th July 2018
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The Moose said:
Don’t be silly. You can’t wash cars in denim - it scratches the paintwork.

More like this:
Oh my God, she's using a sponge instead of a lambswool mitt....

The Moose

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23,684 posts

239 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Leggy said:
Best of luck. Struggle to see how you can make any decent money from these. Here as already mentioned run by foreign workers being paid very low wages.
I think they will disappear in time as they move on to other ways to make a living. Already witnessed one being raided by immigration recently.
There is £5 automated car wash near me that’s really good. I’d rather trust that than buckets and rags.
Thanks for the comments.

Pretty low start up costs that I can see (insurance policy is probably the biggest cost). Investment for each person I imagine to be under $1,000 probably more like $500.

I think each guy would have to do about 0.75 cars per hour to break even for the day.

100% cashless.

Waterless wash and battery powered vacuum means limited resources required at each location.

Expand and contract with ease.

Can redeploy staff quickly and easily (with a truck).

As I said, this isn't a business I know anything about so interested in hearing from anyone who had a little more experience...and as it was unlikely we would be competing directly had hoped someone would be able to share some info!

Zetec-S

6,929 posts

123 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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HOGEPH said:
The Moose said:
Don’t be silly. You can’t wash cars in denim - it scratches the paintwork.

More like this:
Oh my God, she's using a sponge instead of a lambswool mitt....
Sponge... what sponge...?

technodup

7,661 posts

160 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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The Moose said:
100% cashless.
I think you're missing the point of a car wash. wink

Condi

20,467 posts

201 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Maybe Im a bit thick, but I wouldnt be happy with a 'waterless wash'. Sounds like you'd be rubbing crap all in the paintwork and while it might be all fine and perfectly safe, I'd drive past your place to somewhere which used water just because I'd be unsure.

Probably a 'typical customer' unless you're more used to it over in the US than we are here.

OMITN

3,070 posts

122 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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I thought hand car washes were a sign of a broken economy - low productivity and high exploitation (lots of modern slavery), the sort of thing seen in developing countries and not one of the world's largest economies.

The Moose

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23,684 posts

239 months

Monday 9th July 2018
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Condi said:
Maybe Im a bit thick, but I wouldnt be happy with a 'waterless wash'. Sounds like you'd be rubbing crap all in the paintwork and while it might be all fine and perfectly safe, I'd drive past your place to somewhere which used water just because I'd be unsure.

Probably a 'typical customer' unless you're more used to it over in the US than we are here.
The waterless wash products are more popular in certain parts of the country (think California with their drought). A regular wash uses between 75 and 150 gallons of water. Mechanical car wash 40-50 gallons.

The waterless wash products seem to do a real good job - and can have waxes in them. For a super dirty vehicle (think something that has been mud plugging) you wouldn't want to do a waterless wash (although I believe it can be done).

I guess the idea is that people would 'add on' a car wash to their trip to the store, as opposed to making a dedicated trip.