Car Storage - Help me start my business
Car Storage - Help me start my business
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Ray Singh

Original Poster:

3,078 posts

259 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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I have found a really nice place to store cars in the Marlborough area in Wiltshire.
It is a basement which is brick and concrete, high ceilings, secure and dry. It is approx. 7000Sq Ft and great for storing cars.
The owner of the area doesn't use this and is keen for it to be used and also to make some income from this area.

I have studied the market and there are car storage businesses nearby, these are charging around £25/wk to store cars, often in dehumidified environments.

I plan to undercut them and store motorhomes, caravans, cars, classic cars, bikes etc.

I am really struggling to find insurance for this project and this is what is holding me back at the moment. I have contacted several brokers who just cannot help as either they dont want to insure a new venture or only want to insure a known quantity of cars.

I really think that this could work and dont want to stop my dream because of this. Can anyone help, please?



leemanning

569 posts

181 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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I'd call an existing car storage company posing as a potential customer and ask them to see proof of insurance.

As an aside, my wife works for an insurance broker and they specialise in motor trade, so if you want to PM me your details I'll ping them onto her.

Deep Thought

40,090 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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Ray Singh said:
I have found a really nice place to store cars in the Marlborough area in Wiltshire.
It is a basement which is brick and concrete, high ceilings, secure and dry. It is approx. 7000Sq Ft and great for storing cars.
The owner of the area doesn't use this and is keen for it to be used and also to make some income from this area.

I have studied the market and there are car storage businesses nearby, these are charging around £25/wk to store cars, often in dehumidified environments.

I plan to undercut them and store motorhomes, caravans, cars, classic cars, bikes etc.

I am really struggling to find insurance for this project and this is what is holding me back at the moment. I have contacted several brokers who just cannot help as either they dont want to insure a new venture or only want to insure a known quantity of cars.

I really think that this could work and dont want to stop my dream because of this. Can anyone help, please?
Why would you do that?

A USP of being the cheapest doesnt strike me as being a good idea, particularly as you've no idea of costs and no idea of their capability to price match / beat you.

andyb28

1,157 posts

147 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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A race to the bottom!

berlintaxi

8,535 posts

202 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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If you want to store caravans and motorhomes, you need to talk to these guys;

http://www.cassoa.co.uk/im-a-storage-site-owner/

Most RV/caravan insurers insist on a site being Cassoa rated if the owner is not storing the unit on their domestic premises.

geeks

11,589 posts

168 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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Why not update the thread you already have running that has some help in there already for you, although judging on that one, you aren't going to get far!

https://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&...

TwistingMyMelon

6,505 posts

234 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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I'm in the Marlborough area as well and have been trying to find commercial premises for a while, not the same business area though

Firstly I would do your sums, then do your sums again

There is probably a reason why current businesses charge what they do, I would ensure you are going to make a profit




Ray Singh

Original Poster:

3,078 posts

259 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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Thanks all.

Some constructive comments there.

I have done my sums. The current owner of the premises owns them outright and doesn't use the area at all. Its free money for him.

Local car storage places are charging circa £25/wk, but that is for tiled floor, uber clean, (in some cases) dehumidified storage. I cant offer that. I will need to price my offering accordingly.

The insurance is the big hurdle at the moment......

I have updated my other thread.

Deep Thought

40,090 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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Ray Singh said:
Thanks all.

Some constructive comments there.

I have done my sums. The current owner of the premises owns them outright and doesn't use the area at all. Its free money for him.

Local car storage places are charging circa £25/wk, but that is for tiled floor, uber clean, (in some cases) dehumidified storage. I cant offer that. I will need to price my offering accordingly.

The insurance is the big hurdle at the moment......

I have updated my other thread.
Thats £25 per week including VAT?

How much are you getting offered the space for per month?

How much are you budgetting for electric and rates per month?

How much are you budgetting for insurance per month?

How much are you budgetting for advertising per month?

How many cars do you expect to get in to the 7,000 sq foot?

The answers to those questions should get you a very quick indication of viability, and also what your break even point would be.



Du1point8

22,840 posts

221 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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I here Garaged.com is available for a domain

Tyre Smoke

23,018 posts

290 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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Deep Thought said:
Ray Singh said:
Thanks all.

Some constructive comments there.

I have done my sums. The current owner of the premises owns them outright and doesn't use the area at all. Its free money for him.

Local car storage places are charging circa £25/wk, but that is for tiled floor, uber clean, (in some cases) dehumidified storage. I cant offer that. I will need to price my offering accordingly.

The insurance is the big hurdle at the moment......

I have updated my other thread.
Thats £25 per week including VAT?

How much are you getting offered the space for per month?

How much are you budgetting for electric and rates per month?

How much are you budgetting for insurance per month?

How much are you budgetting for advertising per month?

How many cars do you expect to get in to the 7,000 sq foot?

The answers to those questions should get you a very quick indication of viability, and also what your break even point would be.
One very important extra question...

How much are you budgeting for security per month?

Deep Thought

40,090 posts

226 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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Tyre Smoke said:
Deep Thought said:
Ray Singh said:
Thanks all.

Some constructive comments there.

I have done my sums. The current owner of the premises owns them outright and doesn't use the area at all. Its free money for him.

Local car storage places are charging circa £25/wk, but that is for tiled floor, uber clean, (in some cases) dehumidified storage. I cant offer that. I will need to price my offering accordingly.

The insurance is the big hurdle at the moment......

I have updated my other thread.
Thats £25 per week including VAT?

How much are you getting offered the space for per month?

How much are you budgetting for electric and rates per month?

How much are you budgetting for insurance per month?

How much are you budgetting for advertising per month?

How many cars do you expect to get in to the 7,000 sq foot?

The answers to those questions should get you a very quick indication of viability, and also what your break even point would be.
One very important extra question...

How much are you budgeting for security per month?
Yes, a very good question!!

LarJammer

2,421 posts

239 months

Tuesday 10th July 2018
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You want to store cars and RV's in a basement? With fuel and LPG and butane and batteries constantly on charge venting hydrogen? I hope its a well ventilated basement...

Ean218

2,041 posts

279 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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LarJammer said:
You want to store cars and RV's in a basement? With fuel and LPG and butane and batteries constantly on charge venting hydrogen? I hope its a well ventilated basement...
That's the reason the insurance is proving problematic!

KevinCamaroSS

13,810 posts

309 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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Ray, you are going to get the sames answers on here as your other thread. The idea is idiotic, will cost you a small fortune and has no viability as a business.

Monkeylegend

29,132 posts

260 months

Wednesday 11th July 2018
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This thread has taken an ironictwist.

anonymous-user

83 months

Thursday 12th July 2018
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As I commented on the insurance thread, I had a car in storage in Wiltshire, used to use it when I was in the UK, land at Heathrow and train/bus down. Certainly in the expat/foreigner market, budget wasn't an issue, it was security and service, Cars were cleaned, battery tyres fuel topped up, etc, and they could arrange servicing etc, Cars were arranged by region, mine was in a far east section, as people tended to arrive together, far east flight tend to land in the morning.
My cars were next to very exotic things owned by royalty, if you are looking at that end of the market then you definitely don't want to be looking at storing caravans, I'm not mentioning names as security was an issue to the owner, but you weren't allowed to park your own car, it was collected and delivered outside the storage area so no door or trolley dents.

48k

17,327 posts

177 months

Friday 13th July 2018
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I looked in to starting a car storage business a while ago and just couldn't make the maths work.

Copy+pasted from my "things consider" fag packet man maths sheet :

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Startup costs:

Premises Deposit
Conveyancing/legal costs
Decor/renovations/setup/signage
Office furniture and equipment
Garage equipment (eg. tools, battery conditioners, Carcoons)
Accountant/company start up costs

Monthly fixed overheads:

Rent
Service charge
Business rates
Utilities (Gas, Leccy, Water, Phone, Internet)
Insurance
Security/monitoring
Vermin protection
Industry/trade memberships

Monthly variable costs:

Advertising
Marketing items
Professional fees
Accountant
Tools / breakages / repairs
Stationery
Office supplies
Rubbish disposal eg. hazardous eg. oil?

Value add services to think about: detailing, machanic/servicing/MoT, meet and greet/airport runs, delivery collections

Some clients may want covered transport.

UK standard car parking bay is 4.8m x 2.5m - call it 5m x 3m so 15m2 per car

Need maneuvering space - at least same amount again depending on layout but possibly more, plus (minimal) office space so you're paying rent for space that isn't generating revenue. Need to optimise layout for storage - maybe use dollies or lifts?


Market / Competition

competitors base charge £45 per week + vat
then services on top


Competitors

Hamiltons Car Storage http://www.hamiltonscarstorage.co.uk/
Buckingham Car Storage http://www.buckinghamcarstorage.co.uk/
Slades garage http://www.slades-garage.co.uk/storage
Autofarm (possible changed ownership / no longer trading?)
Tigastor http://www.tigastor.co.uk/prices.html
Autovault http://www.autovaultcarstorage.co.uk/

Good "induction process" - https://www.windrushcarstorage.co.uk/storage/car-s...
Windrush car storage cotswolds £52 per week plus VAT



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The successful guys in this market are places where they own the freehold - family farms with barns, land etc that sort of thing.

Doing it based on renting a unit I couldn't make the maths stack up

Hope that helps