Audit requirement
Discussion
There's a company I've been following for some years. It's only 8 years old and for first 5 years submitted abbreviated accounts to CH. Then in 2017 it submitted full audited accounts. And again this year.
The company has a t/o of 23m. 7 employees. Balance sheet of about 1.5m
Therefore it meets the criteria which would exempt it from audit
Why would a company voluntarily have itself audited? Teeing itself up for an AIM list? But being relatively new, I'd have thought aim listing would not be top priority just now
Bit perplexed. Any ideas?
The company has a t/o of 23m. 7 employees. Balance sheet of about 1.5m
Therefore it meets the criteria which would exempt it from audit
Why would a company voluntarily have itself audited? Teeing itself up for an AIM list? But being relatively new, I'd have thought aim listing would not be top priority just now
Bit perplexed. Any ideas?
JBM78 said:
For audits, the balance sheet threshold relates to gross assets (i.e. fixed assets + current assets), not net assets.
When you say balance sheet of 1.5m, what do you mean?
2016 FA+CA was 6.25m (t/o 23m, 6 employees)When you say balance sheet of 1.5m, what do you mean?
2017 FA+CA was 5.38m (t/o 23.5m, 6 employees)
2016 accounts, when published, were abbreviated and unaudited.
The 2016 t/o figure above comes from the 2017 accounts which have a full set of 2016 figures in them
I don't think they need to borrow any money. This business is not a capital requiring business. They don't need fancy overseas people who'll require visas. I know one of the owners but kinda fell out with him. He's autistic and straight down the middle.
I just can't work out why they moved to audited accounts when they didn't need to
Maybe for sale purposes in a few years. That might make sense.
Hmm
Companies House says -
For financial years that begin on or after 1 January 2016
Your company may qualify for an audit exemption if it has at least 2 of the following:
an annual turnover of no more than £10.2 million
assets worth no more than £5.1 million
50 or fewer employees on average
The important thing is that companies can still have their annual accounts audited even if they are not required to do so by law. The usual reason is because more than 10% of the shareholders have requested that the accounts undergo an independent audit. There are many reasons why they might do that.
For financial years that begin on or after 1 January 2016
Your company may qualify for an audit exemption if it has at least 2 of the following:
an annual turnover of no more than £10.2 million
assets worth no more than £5.1 million
50 or fewer employees on average
The important thing is that companies can still have their annual accounts audited even if they are not required to do so by law. The usual reason is because more than 10% of the shareholders have requested that the accounts undergo an independent audit. There are many reasons why they might do that.
MrJuice said:
JBM78 said:
For audits, the balance sheet threshold relates to gross assets (i.e. fixed assets + current assets), not net assets.
When you say balance sheet of 1.5m, what do you mean?
2016 FA+CA was 6.25m (t/o 23m, 6 employees)When you say balance sheet of 1.5m, what do you mean?
2017 FA+CA was 5.38m (t/o 23.5m, 6 employees)
2016 accounts, when published, were abbreviated and unaudited.
The 2016 t/o figure above comes from the 2017 accounts which have a full set of 2016 figures in them
I don't think they need to borrow any money. This business is not a capital requiring business. They don't need fancy overseas people who'll require visas. I know one of the owners but kinda fell out with him. He's autistic and straight down the middle.
I just can't work out why they moved to audited accounts when they didn't need to
Maybe for sale purposes in a few years. That might make sense.
Hmm
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