Expenses while away on company business.
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Over the next three years I’ll be going away, a few days at a time, for my company. Predictably we would like our expenses increased as it’s quite difficult to feed and water ourselves on what they’re allowing us.
£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
Tony1963 said:
Over the next three years I’ll be going away, a few days at a time, for my company. Predictably we would like our expenses increased as it’s quite difficult to feed and water ourselves on what they’re allowing us.
£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
That’s about the same as ours. £50 per day maximum allowance with individual meal limits of £10/£15/£30. We have done sample checks and our allowances are more than sufficient to cover the costs of subsistence equivalent to what you would normally have at home. Admittedly you might not be able to afford a “Full English” followed by a 3 course lunch, followed by a similar meal in the evening but that’s not what subsistence allowances are really intended for,£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
Tony1963 said:
At the moment, they’re strict, but have asked us to provide evidence that other companies provide a higher rate. And annoyingly, others I’ve asked, including my sister in law HR director, have also said that they ask employees to not take the piss, and it works.
Most employees don’t take the piss, some do, and unfortunately that’s why the Roolz have to cater for the “Lowest Common Denominator”. One person’s “taking the piss” is another person’s “I’m entitled”.ETA Google “Carlos Ghosn/ Nissan”
Countdown said:
Tony1963 said:
Over the next three years I’ll be going away, a few days at a time, for my company. Predictably we would like our expenses increased as it’s quite difficult to feed and water ourselves on what they’re allowing us.
£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
That’s about the same as ours. £50 per day maximum allowance with individual meal limits of £10/£15/£30. We have done sample checks and our allowances are more than sufficient to cover the costs of subsistence equivalent to what you would normally have at home. Admittedly you might not be able to afford a “Full English” followed by a 3 course lunch, followed by a similar meal in the evening but that’s not what subsistence allowances are really intended for,£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
OP, £35 is taking the piss & I wouldn't do the travel on that basis. Tell them you'll go actuality.
The line my last place took was the allowance was not to feed and water you, it was to cover the differential in cost between eating at home and eating out... I never really struggled with it at £30 per night but if they have put you in an isolated hotel with no other local options & a main + drink is over £30 then you should probably have a word with whoever’s booking the hotels.
Edited by Black_S3 on Sunday 9th June 11:55
Tony1963 said:
Chatting to others, it sounds like tax rules kick in over £30/day.
The people booking the hotel are limited by what’s available with the short notice we are given.
Entertaining clients? Lol. It’s not that sort of work
I'd put up another suitably titled post & try to get Eric Mc's view on this. He'll be able to advise on the tax issue. The people booking the hotel are limited by what’s available with the short notice we are given.
Entertaining clients? Lol. It’s not that sort of work
Black_S3 said:
The line my last place took was the allowance was not to feed and water you, it was to cover the differential in cost between eating at home and eating out... I never really struggled with it at £30 per night.
If my employer had ever said that, I'd have said "don't worry about it, I'll feed myself at home and travel every day at 45p per mile".Tony1963 said:
Over the next three years I’ll be going away, a few days at a time, for my company. Predictably we would like our expenses increased as it’s quite difficult to feed and water ourselves on what they’re allowing us.
£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
How much is a main course and a drink in the hotel? Have they an online menu?£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
Usually hotel restaurants have a business user oriented offer.
Deep Thought said:
Tony1963 said:
Over the next three years I’ll be going away, a few days at a time, for my company. Predictably we would like our expenses increased as it’s quite difficult to feed and water ourselves on what they’re allowing us.
£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
How much is a main course and a drink in the hotel? Have they an online menu?£30 evening meal (incl one alcoholic drink), £5 lunch/incidentals, breakfast ‘if’ it’s provided at the hotel.
And there’s the sting: if breakfast isn’t provided, we have to buy something, receipted, and it comes out of the £30.
I would like to know how this compares with what other companies provide. The hotel they are putting me in next Friday for three nights isn’t cheap to eat in, and Oxfordshire is far from bargain basement!
Usually hotel restaurants have a business user oriented offer.
I’ve got rates and deals with lots of hotels and chains up and down the country that I’ve negotiated for b&b, rbb etc... can often get some healthy discounts too this way - esp if you can guarantee them a strong number of nights per week for a few weeks
GT03ROB said:
Assuming your are going to be at Brize, plenty of reasonable places to eat in Catergrad
Yes, there are. And with any ‘normal’ job, it’d be easy. However, we are there Friday afternoon til Monday morning, and occasionally due to any number of external influences, we might not be able to book a table more than a couple of hours ahead. Not easy on a Saturday night. Last time we went it was mid-week, and quite a few places were fully booked on the Thursday!It’ll be fine, I know, but we just need ammunition in our armoury for when things go wrong.
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