Does anyone here do metal testing?
Does anyone here do metal testing?
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khushy

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Tuesday 21st January 2020
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I need to ascertain the exact metal type on a product we make as the info from the manufacturer is sketchy at best

I need to know is it 6000 or 7000 series aluminium

Dr Slotter

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Tuesday 21st January 2020
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I can probably help with this. Drop me a PM.

khushy

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Friday 24th January 2020
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TOP WORK Dr S - thanks

PistonGuy66

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Friday 24th January 2020
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If you want to post me a small sample i can test it with my XRF niton gun?

khushy

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Friday 24th January 2020
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PistonGuy66 said:
If you want to post me a small sample i can test it with my XRF niton gun?
Thanks but the Dr ^^ sorted it out for me lol

Simpo Two

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Friday 24th January 2020
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What's the difference between 6000 and 7000 series? (and don't say 1,000!)

yellowjack

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Friday 24th January 2020
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Simpo Two said:
What's the difference between 6000 and 7000 series? (and don't say 1,000!)
In the bicycle industry it's mainly weight and price. 7000 series is lighter and more expensive than 6000 series. I think maybe it's strength and/or flex too. Many mountain bikes use 6061 Aluminium, whilst road ('racing') bikes often use 7005.

Then again, I'm not an engineer or a metallurgist, so I might be squawking out of me 'arris on the subject...

Simpo Two

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Friday 24th January 2020
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I'm thinking more of 'what's in it?' Aluminium is an element. So from first principle ponderings, you could have 100% Al, or mix it with something else to make an alloy. Or perhaps they are both 100% Al but the crystalline structure differs, like iron.

Frankthered

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Friday 24th January 2020
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Dr Slotter said:
I can probably help with this. Drop me a PM.
I read that as "Drop me a PMI."

getmecoat

Dr Slotter

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176 months

Friday 24th January 2020
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No problem Khushy! I'll reply to your email too.

The series numbers in aluminium alloys indicate their major alloying element(s);

1xxx - pure aluminium (near enough)
2xxx - copper
3xxx - manganese
4xxx - silicon
5xxx - magnesium
6xxx - silicon and magnesium
7xxx - zinc
8xxx - others

They all variously have different combinations of properties e.g. strength, corrosion, weldability, castability etc. which leads to which you choose (plus cost, of course).

Edited by Dr Slotter on Friday 24th January 21:42

Simpo Two

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Friday 24th January 2020
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khushy

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Sunday 26th January 2020
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yellowjack said:
In the bicycle industry it's mainly weight and price. 7000 series is lighter and more expensive than 6000 series. I think maybe it's strength and/or flex too. Many mountain bikes use 6061 Aluminium, whilst road ('racing') bikes often use 7005.

Then again, I'm not an engineer or a metallurgist, so I might be squawking out of me 'arris on the subject...
Are you in the cycling industry?

yellowjack

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Sunday 26th January 2020
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khushy said:
yellowjack said:
In the bicycle industry it's mainly weight and price. 7000 series is lighter and more expensive than 6000 series. I think maybe it's strength and/or flex too. Many mountain bikes use 6061 Aluminium, whilst road ('racing') bikes often use 7005.

Then again, I'm not an engineer or a metallurgist, so I might be squawking out of me 'arris on the subject...
Are you in the cycling industry?
Only as a punter. My info was gleaned from buying bikes with frames made from various grades of aluminium. I perhaps ought to have not presented it as fact. You're 'The Kapz Guy' aren't you?