Amazon logistics
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I looked into this recently, and had a webinar with one of the business development managers. Not completely ruled out proceeding with it but it did come across as if each van runs at a very fine margin, and a simple puncture etc would make it a non profitable route that day.
I sent an email over asking how many people were running their own fleet through this scheme and if I could have the contact details for them to ask a few more questions but never heard anything back, perhaps I’ll chase it up this week.
Let me know if you make any proceedings with it would be interested to hear a second opinion on it.
I sent an email over asking how many people were running their own fleet through this scheme and if I could have the contact details for them to ask a few more questions but never heard anything back, perhaps I’ll chase it up this week.
Let me know if you make any proceedings with it would be interested to hear a second opinion on it.
We run a haulage company, I drive one as well as own the business. Our usual customers at this time of year are plant nurseries, UK crops, and the usual supermarkets gearing up for summer. Work dried up a little at the beginning of April, so I looked at this Amazon thing to, maybe, keep ticking over and see what happens......Jesus, the rates they offer for a 44t artic won't even cover the diesel on most runs.
JPJPJP said:
as with many amazon things, I expect the bulk of the money to be made will end up in amazon's pocket and the bulk of liabilities carried by the operator
This was the impression I got from it to be honest. Obviously the financial illustration provided showed the operators cleaning a very good wage each year but best to take that with a large pinch of salt. its not as easy as signing up drivers and vans and watching the money pile in,your responsible for daily operations,organisation and committing to cover the agreed routes regardless of problems
you need 60% more drivers than routes for cover,some drivers couldn't care less and mistakes are rife
on the plus side it looks like pay for drivers is 2/3 of what amazon pay you,,the more drivers you have the more you make
drivers are charged around £190 to £235 per week for their van supplied by you,but insurance and maintenance costs are high
an ideal scenario would be to have real good drivers,who dont get concessions,to keep stats high and bring the bonuses in,
but thats just not going to happen
i thought of doing it, and attract the better drivers by paying more than any other dsp,but its still a bit of a commitment,and if you cant get the best drivers your still answerable to amazon
you need 60% more drivers than routes for cover,some drivers couldn't care less and mistakes are rife
on the plus side it looks like pay for drivers is 2/3 of what amazon pay you,,the more drivers you have the more you make
drivers are charged around £190 to £235 per week for their van supplied by you,but insurance and maintenance costs are high
an ideal scenario would be to have real good drivers,who dont get concessions,to keep stats high and bring the bonuses in,
but thats just not going to happen
i thought of doing it, and attract the better drivers by paying more than any other dsp,but its still a bit of a commitment,and if you cant get the best drivers your still answerable to amazon
In the run up to last Christmas, eight vehicles a day were followed out of the Liverpool (Knowsley) amazon deport, then robbed.No comeback to Amazon. All on the courier. Even to the point when that scam was found, kids on mountain bikes would follow the deliveries and knick the goods left in "safe places". Again, courier got the hit.
DSP 2.0.. I work in AMZL and deal with these and would be avoiding it if you want a easy life
We have one at our station and they struggled at first. When they brought someone in who had experience in logistics it improved. There account managers are straight out of university with no clue. So having a good one helps.
We have one at our station and they struggled at first. When they brought someone in who had experience in logistics it improved. There account managers are straight out of university with no clue. So having a good one helps.
One of my customers does it as part of their wider business interests - their main business is HGV haulage and storage, but they also have a couple of petrol stations and an Amazon business.
They are no fools, so the Amazon business must pay. Maybe it's helped because they have bunkered diesel / access to cost price diesel on their own forecourts. But they do have a very professional operation, with a fleet of recent VW Transporters and smartly dressed drivers in company uniform - so profits from the operation must make it worthwhile. But it may only work because it's part of a bigger logistics business and I assume they use the Amazon fleet for other purposes when Amazon isn't busy.
They are no fools, so the Amazon business must pay. Maybe it's helped because they have bunkered diesel / access to cost price diesel on their own forecourts. But they do have a very professional operation, with a fleet of recent VW Transporters and smartly dressed drivers in company uniform - so profits from the operation must make it worthwhile. But it may only work because it's part of a bigger logistics business and I assume they use the Amazon fleet for other purposes when Amazon isn't busy.
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