12kg of crockery
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Simpo Two

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Monday 15th June 2020
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I have to get 12kg of assorted vintage crockery from Essex to Yorkshire. Plates, bowls, cups and jugs.

Any ideas as to the best packaging method and courier would be most welcome!

paul.deitch

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287 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Nickyboy

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Monday 15th June 2020
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Personally i wouldn't

By the time you've taken time, money and effort to package them properly in about 10 boxes you could have driven there and back. Whilst i appreciate this isn't the easiest way to do it, it is almost certainly the only way to guarantee it's safe arrival, especially if it's vintage.

Simpo Two

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Nickyboy said:
Personally i wouldn't

By the time you've taken time, money and effort to package them properly in about 10 boxes you could have driven there and back. Whilst i appreciate this isn't the easiest way to do it, it is almost certainly the only way to guarantee it's safe arrival, especially if it's vintage.
You could be right. The items are worth £100, but if I'm going to take the XK to Yorkshire that's probably more in petrol, plus mileage on the clock and a whole day of time... not appealing. And the buyer doesn't have a car...

It's sounding like of those 'fox and geese across the river in a rowing boat' questions isn't it spin

HoHoHo

15,399 posts

280 months

Monday 15th June 2020
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Get a backload if you want to use a dedicated courier

If you don’t have access to that on me and provide collection and delivery addresses and I’ll get a quote.

Regardless it’s not going to be cheap!

Simpo Two

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Tuesday 16th June 2020
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HoHoHo said:
Get a backload if you want to use a dedicated courier

If you don’t have access to that on me and provide collection and delivery addresses and I’ll get a quote.

Regardless it’s not going to be cheap!
Thanks HHH, useful info. I've never seen a backload option with a courier but then I'm not a business user. I normally use Hermes, but used UPS once to ship a grinder (17kg) for about £18 but of course that was fairly indestructible.

The buyer has offered to send me packaging, which is a good start as it passes some of the responsibility. I'll get the address and PM it, and thanks very much for the offer smile

Fastchas

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151 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Simpo Two said:
Thanks HHH, useful info. I've never seen a backload option with a courier but then I'm not a business user. I normally use Hermes, but used UPS once to ship a grinder (17kg) for about £18 but of course that was fairly indestructible.

The buyer has offered to send me packaging, which is a good start as it passes some of the responsibility. I'll get the address and PM it, and thanks very much for the offer smile
After clearing my mum's house recently I sold a lot of pottery on eBay. No courier would offer insurance for the parcels once they knew what was inside.
I sold a Royal Crown Derby candlestick, value around £250. Hermes wouldn't cover it so I looked for a dedicated courier and found one who advertised 'fragile' items on their homepage, assuring that vases etc would be safe in their care.
Got to the details on the webpage and a pop-up said it wouldn't be covered. frown

HoHoHo

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Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Simpo Two said:
HoHoHo said:
Get a backload if you want to use a dedicated courier

If you don’t have access to that on me and provide collection and delivery addresses and I’ll get a quote.

Regardless it’s not going to be cheap!
Thanks HHH, useful info. I've never seen a backload option with a courier but then I'm not a business user. I normally use Hermes, but used UPS once to ship a grinder (17kg) for about £18 but of course that was fairly indestructible.

The buyer has offered to send me packaging, which is a good start as it passes some of the responsibility. I'll get the address and PM it, and thanks very much for the offer smile
Essentially I’ll ask someone who’s in your area for a cost to take your goods to another address on their way home on an app my own Logistics Company uses.

Salmonofdoubt

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98 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Have a look at packandsend.co.uk

My old man sold a vase on eBay for £1500. The buyer arranged for those people to collect it, pack if and get it delivered.

It arrived perfectly, the alternative was me driving 800 miles so I'm glad it worked.

Mr Overheads

2,632 posts

206 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Have a look at shiply

jammy-git

29,778 posts

242 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Can the buyer not just hire a car or van themselves for a few tenners?

silentbrown

10,944 posts

146 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Can't you just use a regular removals box and plenty plenty paper?

15Kg, 57x45x45 would only cost £12 with UPS. https://uk.interparcel.com/

Nickyboy

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264 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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silentbrown said:
Can't you just use a regular removals box and plenty plenty paper?

15Kg, 57x45x45 would only cost £12 with UPS. https://uk.interparcel.com/
Paper is no good for packing china, it needs to be boxed individually inside a strong outer box, removals boxes are good but aren't designed for mass handling in a courier network. Plus putting it all in one box will possibly compromise the strength of the box with the weight

silentbrown

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146 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Nickyboy said:
Paper is no good for packing china, it needs to be boxed individually inside a strong outer box,
Paper is fine for packing crockery, particularly plates/bowls. Use plenty of it, and common sense about heavier stuff at the bottom. Anything super-fragile or valuable you could box separately if necessary.

We're not talking about a ming vase here, just £100 of random crockery.

Nickyboy said:
removals boxes are good but aren't designed for mass handling in a courier network.
That actually was part of my reasoning. Over-large boxes tend to get treated better in transit than small ones.
Nickyboy said:
Plus putting it all in one box will possibly compromise the strength of the box with the weight
Well, use two boxes if necessary. 12Kg isn't exactly heavy.

skwdenyer

18,707 posts

270 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Shiply might get you a taker for the carriage part?

Turn7

25,750 posts

251 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Simple answer ? Would you drive that distance to collect the cash ? If its not an amount of money you would walk over, then get it in the car and crack on......

skwdenyer

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270 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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Simpo Two said:
I have to get 12kg of assorted vintage crockery from Essex to Yorkshire. Plates, bowls, cups and jugs.

Any ideas as to the best packaging method and courier would be most welcome!
All joking aside, I drive from Yorkshire to London and back again most weeks. I’m sure I cold come to an arrangement for this for some small payment. Would happily take on the risk provided they’re packed fairly well.

Would that be of interest?

Chrocco

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224 months

Tuesday 16th June 2020
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skwdenyer said:
Simpo Two said:
I have to get 12kg of assorted vintage crockery from Essex to Yorkshire. Plates, bowls, cups and jugs.

Any ideas as to the best packaging method and courier would be most welcome!
All joking aside, I drive from Yorkshire to London and back again most weeks. I’m sure I cold come to an arrangement for this for some small payment. Would happily take on the risk provided they’re packed fairly well.

Would that be of interest?
You have insurance for carriage of goods for hire and reward obviously wink

Bubble wrap everything individually and ensure it is all well cushioned with more bubble wrap etc... around the sides of the box so nothing can move around. Use a strong double wall box, more if necessary and plenty of tape.

Simpo Two

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Wednesday 17th June 2020
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skwdenyer said:
Would that be of interest?
That's a great offer, but I'm in NE Essex so it would be quite a bit out of your way. Might keep it as a Plan B though smile

The current position is that the buyer offered to send me the packaging, and will also tell me how she wants the items packed into three boxes. So, unusually in such cases she's 'organising' things and that actually suits me because if the packaging fails en route or she gets a box of fragments, I can say 'but that's how you wanted it'. The actual method of transport we can decide on later but it seems none insure breakable goods.

We won't get things completed until the end of June as she needs another pay cheque. But we'll see what happens then.

Thanks to all who responded; some very useful ideas there.

Chrocco

60 posts

224 months

Wednesday 17th June 2020
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The carriers would take your money for insurance but would not cover it as any damage would be recorded as insufficiently packed. If it was given to an independent local courier/freight company to pack, transport and insure it would be covered as it is then professionally packed but you obviously pay for the privilege and it would generally have an excess higher than what you are sending anyway should a claim arise.