WFH how do the new generation learn?
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As above. Most of my knowledge and skills in the industry I work in has been built up over many years of experience and listening and learning from others.
Little snippets of information, listening to others dealing with customers and solving problems etc etc. There are now a load of potential interns trying to find placements but what will be the point if everyone is sat at home, how do they observe, shadow and learn.
Only asking as I would like to make working more flexible.
Little snippets of information, listening to others dealing with customers and solving problems etc etc. There are now a load of potential interns trying to find placements but what will be the point if everyone is sat at home, how do they observe, shadow and learn.
Only asking as I would like to make working more flexible.
It's a very good question, I mentored as part of a previous employer's development scheme and I basically got the guy to sit next to me, walked him through what I was doing and why, took him to meetings etc. How I'd do that remotely I have no idea.
Similarly, I learned a vast amount simply by shadowing more senior team members of the years.
I can only think that more formal training and structured calls with senior team members/mentors is the way to bridge this.
It is definitely one of the biggest challenges presented by a move to the remote model.
Similarly, I learned a vast amount simply by shadowing more senior team members of the years.
I can only think that more formal training and structured calls with senior team members/mentors is the way to bridge this.
It is definitely one of the biggest challenges presented by a move to the remote model.
It depends on the individual. I've worked from home for more than a decade. Currently I am supported by a year out student who does my initial CAD work.
I only need to show him once and he has picked it up. His predecessor was rubbish and I got bored of showing him how to do stuff over screenshare. It was quicker to do it myself.
I can see struggles with grads in the office environment for the first time. Some really do not have a clue how to behave...
I only need to show him once and he has picked it up. His predecessor was rubbish and I got bored of showing him how to do stuff over screenshare. It was quicker to do it myself.
I can see struggles with grads in the office environment for the first time. Some really do not have a clue how to behave...
Totally agree, I don't even really understand how you are expected to start a new job at the moment. I started this job three years ago where I knew I could eventually work from home, but for the first six months I was in the office every single day. That allowed me to get to know the majority of people in the company to the point where if I have a problem I know who to ask.
If I start a new job where I am sat at home never having met any of the people I work with, how am I supposed to know who to ask when I have an issue? How am I supposed to know the people who are happy to help and the people that are so grumpy you just don't bother even asking?
Also I have better relationships with some people in the office than others and those people I know will help me out or cover my back if there is ever a problem.
How are you supposed to build these relationships that are vitally important when you never actually get to know anyone?
If I start a new job where I am sat at home never having met any of the people I work with, how am I supposed to know who to ask when I have an issue? How am I supposed to know the people who are happy to help and the people that are so grumpy you just don't bother even asking?
Also I have better relationships with some people in the office than others and those people I know will help me out or cover my back if there is ever a problem.
How are you supposed to build these relationships that are vitally important when you never actually get to know anyone?
Joey Deacon said:
Totally agree, I don't even really understand how you are expected to start a new job at the moment. I started this job three years ago where I knew I could eventually work from home, but for the first six months I was in the office every single day. That allowed me to get to know the majority of people in the company to the point where if I have a problem I know who to ask.
If I start a new job where I am sat at home never having met any of the people I work with, how am I supposed to know who to ask when I have an issue? How am I supposed to know the people who are happy to help and the people that are so grumpy you just don't bother even asking?
Also I have better relationships with some people in the office than others and those people I know will help me out or cover my back if there is ever a problem.
How are you supposed to build these relationships that are vitally important when you never actually get to know anyone?
We have had a few new starters and even recruited during lockdown. Its about saying hello to people, and the friday social call really does help here....If I start a new job where I am sat at home never having met any of the people I work with, how am I supposed to know who to ask when I have an issue? How am I supposed to know the people who are happy to help and the people that are so grumpy you just don't bother even asking?
Also I have better relationships with some people in the office than others and those people I know will help me out or cover my back if there is ever a problem.
How are you supposed to build these relationships that are vitally important when you never actually get to know anyone?
With great difficulty. Some won't be capable, regardless of how much remote support is offered (and there's only so much most businesses can sustain, if they're to make a profit).
We've recruited (and fired) during lockdown, but not at a very junior level. We recruited and fired one senior hire, in fact.
We've recruited (and fired) during lockdown, but not at a very junior level. We recruited and fired one senior hire, in fact.
I have recruited 3 new members of staff in my team during lockdown and they've been successfully trained up. We hold a lot face to face teams calls and screensharing. It really is no different to being in the office and actually is more efficient as they can take control of the mouse and point to things as well.
I'm a financial controller managing financial accounting and systems and have recruited both senior and junior during this time. The junior has been with us for 3 months and is doing fantastically well - she is very proactive though so that helps.
I'm a financial controller managing financial accounting and systems and have recruited both senior and junior during this time. The junior has been with us for 3 months and is doing fantastically well - she is very proactive though so that helps.
I completed my apprenticeship last year and have transitioned into WFH easily. Everything I need to learn I can do over MS Teams screen sharing, it's no different to being sat at their desk in the office, in fact it's better because I can work on my own PC simultaneously as being walked through something.
I am mainly doing engineering design, however I can appreciate learning new hardware remotely will be a struggle! But unfortunately my job is 90% spreadsheets...
I am mainly doing engineering design, however I can appreciate learning new hardware remotely will be a struggle! But unfortunately my job is 90% spreadsheets...
All this assumes everyone will WFH with minimal F2F contact but that won't be the case.
My SiL works for a global company and manages a large London office. They and their international offices all have a programme to bring people back to work in phases. It my be that the future is that most WFH and work from the office but there will still be plenty of of F2F contact in the future.
Things are challenging now but it won't be (relatively) for much longer.
My SiL works for a global company and manages a large London office. They and their international offices all have a programme to bring people back to work in phases. It my be that the future is that most WFH and work from the office but there will still be plenty of of F2F contact in the future.
Things are challenging now but it won't be (relatively) for much longer.
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