Is this legal?
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Tyre Smoke

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23,018 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Last night I had one of those 'awake in the middle of the night' thoughts.

I would like to clarify, I have no intention of doing this.

Scenario...

I am Tyre Smoke t/a ABCD, a sole trader and have an overdraft facility of £10k and last year took out a BBL for £50k. All is going well, but I don't fancy paying back the loan or overdraft, indeed, I fancy another BBL before that ship has sailed.

So, can I cease trading as ABCD and start a new business as WXYZ Ltd (note now a Ltd Co) and continue what ABCD was doing and take out a new BBL?

Am I still liable for the debt of ABCD? I'm assuming so, because as a sole trader I am ABCD and vice versa.

B9

532 posts

112 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Aren't BBL only available to business which existed prior to the pandemic?

Else everyone would just setup a business, get a BBL, then cease trading..

Countdown

45,090 posts

213 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Tyre Smoke said:
Am I still liable for the debt of ABCD? I'm assuming so, because as a sole trader I am ABCD and vice versa.
Yup yes

If only ABCD had been ABCD Ltd, you could have spunked up the BBL/CBILS, closed up and walked away. it would have been even easier if ABCD Ltd was a PSC with little in the way of assets that couldnt be easily disposed of pre-Insolvency.

JeffreyD

6,155 posts

57 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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A business applying for a loan needs to have been in existence by 1st March 2020

Eric Mc

124,103 posts

282 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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The first loan was taken out to support your sole trader activity and therefore is in your name.

The fact that you might eventually close the sole trader business and start a new business under a limited company does not change the fact that you, personally, will still be liable for that original loan.

Tyre Smoke

Original Poster:

23,018 posts

278 months

Tuesday 19th January 2021
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Thought as much.

See what happens with random thoughts in the middle of the night. laugh