That £1000 Trading Allowance
That £1000 Trading Allowance
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Elderly

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3,623 posts

255 months

Tuesday 9th March 2021
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My daughter has a PAYE job-share, and this tax year will earn rather less than the Personal Allowance.
She does not fill in a Tax Return, and had quit her job.

She has just got a one-off freelance job paying under £1000, but that will still not take her total earnings above her personal allowance..

Does she have to request and fill in a tax return (she is repaying a student loan)?

Thanks.

Kiribati268

572 posts

154 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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No. No self assessment required if under £1000.

PAYE income is also irrelevant for the £1000 trading threshold.

Elderly

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255 months

Thursday 11th March 2021
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Cheers.

Eric Mc

124,099 posts

282 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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The £1,000 threshold relates to SALES, not profits.

So if she invoiced £3,000 and made a profit of £500 - she must complete a Self Assessment return.

Elderly

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255 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Thanks Eric.
I’m aware of the £1k being turnover and not profit
which is why I wrote “.... paying less than £1000.....”.
I should have been less ambiguous.

MitchT

16,823 posts

226 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Kiribati268 said:
No. No self assessment required if under £1000.

PAYE income is also irrelevant for the £1000 trading threshold.
So - just to indulge me - I could earn, for example, £40,000 of PAYE income from an "employed" position, and have a turnover of £1,000 from work on the side and I don't need to declare that £1,000?

joshleb

1,548 posts

161 months

Friday 12th March 2021
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Get it paid in cash and no worries... wink

Kiribati268

572 posts

154 months

Saturday 13th March 2021
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MitchT said:
So - just to indulge me - I could earn, for example, £40,000 of PAYE income from an "employed" position, and have a turnover of £1,000 from work on the side and I don't need to declare that £1,000?
Correct.

PAYE income is only considered once tax is liable on your self employment and the profit is added together with your PAYE income to form one big tax liability. HMRC will let you pay tax from self employment through your PAYE tax code, by reducing the personal allowance accordingly.

E.G

£40,000 PAYE + £1000 turnover self employed = 20% tax on £27,500. No need to register for self employment.

£40,000 PAYE + £5000 turnover self employed = 20% tax on £27,500 PLUS 20% tax on all self employment profit.

£5000 PAYE + £5000 turnover self employed = No tax due as less than £12,500 personal allowance. Registration for self employment is still needed as it's over £1000, even though no tax is due.

Eric Mc

124,099 posts

282 months

Thursday 18th March 2021
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Elderly said:
Thanks Eric.
I’m aware of the £1k being turnover and not profit
which is why I wrote “.... paying less than £1000.....”.
I should have been less ambiguous.
Yes "paying less than £1,000" did not clarify if you were referring to the actual sale value or the net situation after costs.