EVs and First Year Capital Allowances
EVs and First Year Capital Allowances
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Rabbo

Original Poster:

527 posts

217 months

Wednesday 8th September 2021
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I'm considering an EV for my next daily driver and perhaps someone can very quickly confirm my understanding is correct regarding the situation in relation to tax. Being self employed I currently prepare my tax return on cash basis but using Capital Allowances to calculate tax in relation to the car I use for business.

I understand that if I were to purchase say, a Tesla M3 at £50k, I can deduct the full cost against my current year tax bill using the first year capital allowances allowance, effectively saving the value of my entire years tax, which might be something like £15k? I do have an accountant but before discussing this further with him I wanted to check my understanding is broadly accurate!

TIA

quinny100

995 posts

202 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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You are correct. However, the benefit is perhaps not as generous as it might first appear - it’s really just a cash flow benefit.

If/when you sell the M3, you’re liable for income tax on that sale amount. So say you sold it after 12 months for £40k, you’ll pay tax on £40k.

If you keep your M3 longer than a year, you can’t claim any further capital allowances so your tax bill is higher in later years.

Silverage

2,267 posts

146 months

Thursday 9th September 2021
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Do you mean you can’t claim any further capital allowances against that car? I suppose that’s fair enough if you’ve already had 100%. Are there some situations where you can claim more than 100% on capital purchases, even if over a longer period than the first year?

Eric Mc

124,066 posts

281 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Yes. If you opt for the 100% allowance (called the Annual Investment Allowance or AIA) then you will cannot claim any further Capital Allowances on that vehicle. If you want to make use of the AIA, you are not obliged to claim 100%. You can opt to claim a lower percentage in the first year and then the normal Writing Down Allowance (WDA) for each successive year.

As has been mentioned above, if the vehicle is eventually disposed of (i.e. sold, used as trade in, used to clear loan balance etc), the value received on disposal - less any balance of allowances unclaimed at the date of disposal - will be treated as taxable income.

When you said you were "self employed", are you GENUINELY operating in a self employed capacity i./e. a sole trader or are you running your business through a limited company?

Rabbo

Original Poster:

527 posts

217 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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I understood AIA could not be claimed on cars?

It sounds like the benefit is only really worthwhile if you keep the car for a relatively long time?

I am genuinely self employed and I do not operate a Ltd company.

Eric Mc

124,066 posts

281 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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Rabbo said:
I understood AIA could not be claimed on cars?
Most cars.

aparna

1,156 posts

53 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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quinny100 said:
If you keep your M3 longer than a year, you can’t claim any further capital allowances so your tax bill is higher in later years.
What does this mean please? Why is tax bill higher in later years?

(I understand disposal is counted as income, but that's just one year? Or am I just misreading and this is all you mean)

quinny100

995 posts

202 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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The tax bill would be higher in later years because you have no capital allowances left as you've already claimed 100%.

Essentially it's just bringing forward allowances from later years into year 1.

skilly1

2,785 posts

211 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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You can write off 130% against profit at the moment.

MaxFromage

2,410 posts

147 months

Friday 10th September 2021
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skilly1 said:
You can write off 130% against profit at the moment.
Incorrect, it doesn't apply to EVs (unless they are commercial vehicles).