My emails going to clients spam
My emails going to clients spam
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vanman1936

Original Poster:

867 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th December
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Hi

I set up a website about 9 months ago and an associated email.

Since then I have started contacted potential targets both directly and in small batches via Hubspot.

Some of these are getting through to clients / targets, but others are getting blocked in their Spam.

All the usual DMARC, DKIM, SPF setups are correct per my IT guy.

Any ideas?

V8RAW

82 posts

88 months

Thursday 4th December
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If you can tell me your domain name, I will run it through my security checker.

vanman1936

Original Poster:

867 posts

239 months

Thursday 4th December
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Thanks…tried to DM you but can’t seem to.

39sl

186 posts

144 months

Thursday 4th December
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Happy to help, DM me the site and I’ll get it assessed

skedaddle

159 posts

41 months

Thursday 4th December
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Check whether your domain is blacklisted - https://mxtoolbox.com/blacklists.aspx

skedaddle

159 posts

41 months

Thursday 4th December
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Based on your profile, I guess the domain is betting-site.com. According to mxtoolbox that domain hasn't been blacklisted which suggests some other issue with the content of your emails or possibly your IP address is blacklisted. Betting related content can trigger spam detection. Maybe there's something in your email that some spam filters don't like?

Chimune

3,852 posts

243 months

Friday 5th December
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Some questions:

1. Are these corp/ b2b contacts or private individuals?

2. Trapped as spam or going to junk ?

3. Are your emails cold/ unsolicited or expected?

4. How do you know they are getting trapped.

5. What does yr it bod say?

Mr Pointy

12,702 posts

179 months

Friday 5th December
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If it is betting-site.com & these are cold call emails then there's every chance they are just being flagged as spam/junk.

Chimune

3,852 posts

243 months

Friday 5th December
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Well exactly. We need to know if these are being identified as spam, because they are and all systems are working as intended on the client side ! (No offence intended)

vanman1936

Original Poster:

867 posts

239 months

Friday 5th December
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Hi guys, thanks for responses.

It’s not betting-site…that is from decades ago. It a professional services firm. Rather stay anonymous for now.

Answer to some of the Qs.

1. Are these corp/ b2b contacts or private individuals? - B2B, CEOs of small companies

2. Trapped as spam or going to junk ? Bit of both, sometimes getting through though

3. Are your emails cold/ unsolicited or expected? Bit of both

4. How do you know they are getting trapped. Targets are telling me

5. What does yr it bod say? He is baffled, not blacklisted and all standard setting are correct. He suspects it’s because my site / domain is newish and I have done some low batch number unsolicited campaigns from hubspot that i am getting a bad “score”. My targets are also very IT savvy, so their settings are probably the most protected.

6. It’s not blacklisted as mentioned, have checked with some of the suggested assement sites above

So in many ways, my Q is less IT technical, more “how do I improve” my score perhaps.

fat80b

3,109 posts

241 months

Friday 5th December
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vanman1936 said:
Hi

Since then I have started contacted potential targets both directly and in small batches via Hubspot.
Technically, cold emails via Hubspot are spam............(even if they are well targeted)

What are your daily/hourly limits set to ?

Did you warm your mailbox up properly?

And have you got the unsubscribe options / sub domains etc configured properly?




skedaddle

159 posts

41 months

Friday 5th December
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vanman1936 said:
3. Are your emails cold/ unsolicited or expected? Bit of both
Unsolicited emails are by definition spam and should be blocked.

Simpo Two

90,429 posts

285 months

Friday 5th December
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I use a forwarded e-mail address, and that hit problems with Gmail a year or two ago because Gmail decided it didn't like forwards and so my e-mails never arrived.

Sheepshanks

38,495 posts

139 months

Friday 5th December
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If a Hubspot mail server is somewhere in the process then it’s almost bound to get messed up, isn’t it?

I’ve recently retired but used to be admin on our Microsoft 365 and that stuck pretty well everything that wasn’t a regular email into junk, or even quarantine.

When I left they were struggling to enable us to receive notification emails from a payment provider that were sent through an AWS server. No matter what IT tried, most of the notifications went to quarantine.

wombleh

2,238 posts

142 months

Friday 5th December
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skedaddle said:
vanman1936 said:
3. Are your emails cold/ unsolicited or expected? Bit of both
Unsolicited emails are by definition spam and should be blocked.
Yes sounds like the fillers are perhaps partly based on user reports of unsolicited email.

Out of interest, do you get any business from that kind of approach?

There are ways around it, but not something to be encouraged really!

Griffith4ever

6,089 posts

55 months

Monday 8th December
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I suffered at the hands of spam filters for years - almost always google treating my non spam as spam. I have never, ever sent an unsolicited email. Ever. Only responses to equiries, or ongoing customer chat.

I have a message on my website front page telling enquirers to check their spam folder, it got so bad.

In the end I solved it with a 2 prong attack.

1) I changed mail server host. I was on a private mail server IP but still, other users of my old host were spammers, so I got tarred with the same brush, even though I showed as clean on all mail / blocklists. That was the most baffling part.

That was Hostpresto. I moved to Ionos.

2) I often reply to my clients with a discount coupon to use in their cart - and I found that removing any mention of discount / coupon has helped immeasurably. I now simply say use the code below in your cart. "Discount" is a nasty word in the world of spam.

Its largely OK now, but Google is the most overreactive. I know this as I missed my glasto tickets one year as they blocked all their replies as spam! :-(

Geoffcapes

1,046 posts

184 months

Monday 8th December
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I had this issue years ago.

If I remember, it was down to my email hosting company. They obviously had someone on their books who sent out spam and therefore had the entire company's emails blacklists.

I used MXToolbox for ages trying to clean things up, in the end I binned the company and bit the bullet and went directly to Gmail.
Never had a problem since.

V8RAW

82 posts

88 months

Tuesday
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vanman1936 said:
Thanks tried to DM you but can t seem to.
I've now enabled DM's - sorry about that.

Strocky

2,749 posts

133 months

Tuesday
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skedaddle said:
nsolicited emails are by definition spam and should be blocked.
This