Who d be a landlord!
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My Daughter has a flat that she rents via a letting agent, Thursday she gets a call to say the ceiling plaster in the lounge is falling away, so big panic to try and get it resolved before Xmas as it doesn’t look safe.
We find a contractor who will go in today and remove all loose plaster and take away then return after Xmas to bond and re plaster in the new year.
This morning she awakes to an email from the agent saying the tenant will refuse entry and is going to report her to environmental health.
(They want paying to go out for the morning while the work is being done.)

We find a contractor who will go in today and remove all loose plaster and take away then return after Xmas to bond and re plaster in the new year.
This morning she awakes to an email from the agent saying the tenant will refuse entry and is going to report her to environmental health.
(They want paying to go out for the morning while the work is being done.)
tight fart said:
My Daughter has a flat that she rents via a letting agent, Thursday she gets a call to say the ceiling plaster in the lounge is falling away, so big panic to try and get it resolved before Xmas as it doesn t look safe.
We find a contractor who will go in today and remove all loose plaster and take away then return after Xmas to bond and re plaster in the new year.
This morning she awakes to an email from the agent saying the tenant will refuse entry and is going to report her to environmental health.
(They want paying to go out for the morning while the work is being done.)

To be fair what a pain in the ass for the tenant, they ve got to remove all their stuff from the room before Christmas, clean up and live with the dust, spend Christmas in a room without a ceiling and then do the same again after Christmas, wait for it to dry, plus presumably it then needs painting. We find a contractor who will go in today and remove all loose plaster and take away then return after Xmas to bond and re plaster in the new year.
This morning she awakes to an email from the agent saying the tenant will refuse entry and is going to report her to environmental health.
(They want paying to go out for the morning while the work is being done.)
If I was the landlord, I d be offering to help them clear it out and giving them a rent rebate or a couple of nights away to make up for the inconvenience.
PovertyPrince said:
Well that s because you went through an agent. She needs to handle it herself so she can properly vet who lives in her home - the agents only care about income compliance.
This....We always vet....Agents don't like it though.Whilst the work is being done take them out for a nice meal the hand them the Section 21 during coffee and brandies!
If the ceilings were all put up that badly they may all need to be replaced. Is there any history of similar problems in other flats in the block?
As regards the tenant, it'll be a lot of disruption that's no fault of theirs so she could look at waiving some rent, or doing something else that's tax-efficient.
As regards the tenant, it'll be a lot of disruption that's no fault of theirs so she could look at waiving some rent, or doing something else that's tax-efficient.
Simpo Two said:
You evil, scheming capitalist b
d! You should be locked up!
Yeah, I was a LL once, never again.
Same here. Was very glad to get rid of my rental property (even though it was sold at less than market value as the last tenant trashed it) and never have to deal with tenants again. I was mostly lucky and had some decent ones but you only need one or two bad apples to really screw you over and with the change to renter’s rights and the tax changes, it just isn’t worth the hassle any more.
d! You should be locked up!Yeah, I was a LL once, never again.
Panamax said:
As regards the tenant, it'll be a lot of disruption that's no fault of theirs so she could look at waiving some rent, or doing something else that's tax-efficient.
For someone whose initial reaction is to try to hold a gun to the landlord’s head?As for the environmental health report, that’ll get nowhere, but serves to nicely highlight the mindset of that tenant.
The question people should be asking is his quickly they could (not just making arrangements but coming up with the money to do so), or would, be able to sort something like that in their own home. 48hrs is pretty good. Tenant should be pleased their landlord is that responsive to issues.
That is horrible for tenants but stuff does happen as it would for any home owner.
The bit that sticks up your nose is the tenant attitude i.e. wanting to be paid to go out.
I have been involved in property rental and seen the bad tenants, you know the situation is bad when the complaint is about rubbish and sanitary products in the garden.
I think some due dilligence is needed to confirm the problem is isolated to the one room and the fault is just with the bonding of the plaster.
Would any insurance policy cover the costs?
Personally you've just had a warning shot about how they deal with problems, rather than facilitate the repairs so they get completed they are being transactional.
Well that goes both ways.
The bit that sticks up your nose is the tenant attitude i.e. wanting to be paid to go out.
I have been involved in property rental and seen the bad tenants, you know the situation is bad when the complaint is about rubbish and sanitary products in the garden.
I think some due dilligence is needed to confirm the problem is isolated to the one room and the fault is just with the bonding of the plaster.
Would any insurance policy cover the costs?
Personally you've just had a warning shot about how they deal with problems, rather than facilitate the repairs so they get completed they are being transactional.
Well that goes both ways.
PovertyPrince said:
Well that s because you went through an agent. She needs to handle it herself so she can properly vet who lives in her home - the agents only care about income compliance.
We had the chief constable of a certain area as our tenant. You'd think that was a safe bet. He turned out to be a nightmare. You really can't tell who's going to be OK & who isn't.Blue_star said:
Sorry, expectation is that tenants spend Christmas with a roof thats not plastered? This is absolutely mental
I know you can be a bit special on this type of thing, but the ceiling will still have plaster on it, and the alternative of them blocking access is that it doesn't get fixed and they're left with loose bits hanging over their head.Remediation followed by repair is entirely to the tenants' benefit.
Greasemonkey13 said:
If the plaster falling down is an isolated incident then the tenant is being a bit harsh
Looking at that picture though, I fear there is more to this than is being divulged the line of black mould where the wall meets the ceiling and poorly hung net curtains are quite telling
I would say exactly the same. The photo certainly seems to tempt a few questions. Looking at that picture though, I fear there is more to this than is being divulged the line of black mould where the wall meets the ceiling and poorly hung net curtains are quite telling

JoshSm said:
Blue_star said:
Sorry, expectation is that tenants spend Christmas with a roof thats not plastered? This is absolutely mental
I know you can be a bit special on this type of thing, but the ceiling will still have plaster on it, and the alternative of them blocking access is that it doesn't get fixed and they're left with loose bits hanging over their head.Remediation followed by repair is entirely to the tenants' benefit.
I wonder if this happened overnight or there were complaints about the state of ceiling earlier as well
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