Website Quote, good price or not?

[tmdigitalart.com]

hi

trying to start new business, need to get website designed and setup. Have got a first quote for all the work
which comes in at £1,410. never got a website designed before so cant really tell if its a good price or not.
the description of the work for £1410 is below.

Design of the layout and style for the website
Development of the CSS file(s) to create the layout and style
Development of W3 standard and accessible XHTML to structure the documents
Intergration of Worldpay
Order detail notification
Database support where needed
All image and graphical work to compliment the design
Testing procedure to ensure browser compatibility

Any thoughts on the price for the above work would be a great help, as like i say i dont know if its good or not.
Very happy so far with the designer, very helpful and good communication, just dont what to get ripped of.

>> Edited by v8maxwell on Sunday 26th February 23:25

[Plotloss]

Doesnt seem bad with active content.

I got quoted around that for 15 pages static.

[tmdigitalart.com]

its only a five page static im after

[Plotloss]

That quote seems to be for layout, content markup and a load of active stuff, like worldpay, db integration etc.

[tmdigitalart.com]

ah right, would the worldpay put price up quite a bit then. whats the db intergration, does it just give me more control over the site

[Plotloss]

Static content is just that, its a static page that is in effect a text document whose contents dont change. This is served by a webserver to a browser which marks up the cotent (text formatting, positioning and the like) for display.

Active content is when a proportion of the document served is read out of a database stored on the webserver or in a place the webserver can access.

This forum for example is 'active' in that each post is stored in a database and the page is created (from what is in effect a template) when you click the link. This allows everyone to see what everyone else writes as they write it, if you see what I mean.

Do you have a tech savvy mate or someone close to you who understands the mechanisms involved in creating websites? That sort of resource will be very handy to ensure that anyone you get to do that actual work doesnt take the piss.

If its strictly brochureware you're after I would say that £300 per page is extremely steep to be honest.

[B17NNS]

[redacted]

[jacobyte]

A good quality flat site will cost upwards of £2-3K.

On the face of it £1,410 for a website including database connectivity is peanuts. But make sure you check out the provider's creative ability through viewing their portfolio and speaking to a few of their existing clients. The proof will be in the pudding.

[UncleDave]

I'll do you a static 5 pager for £500

Yeah that seems a reasonable price for what you have listed.. but if it is just a good, sharp looking but basic site you are after it could be much cheaper.

[UKBob]

Some companies (like us) work the other way around. If you give them £1000, and agree a spec you are happy with, they will give you a product worth £1000.

Eqully, sometimes the same product with the same functionaltiy and same technical specification could be done for half the price.

Or double the price.

Or quadruple the price.

Or, just add a zero onto the original figure.

An example, with no database, no ecommerce, just flash animation:
We've done 7 page designs which have taken days.
We've done 7 page designs which have taken Months!

We've done 1 page animated designs which cost more than your ecommerce website.
We've also done more complex ecommerce websites which cost less.

So long as they are stretching your budget as far as they possibly can and giving you value for money, making the most of every penny then you're in good hands.

[Lonewolf]

Check out with your local chamber of commerce there are grants available for Websites for business's normally for 50% of the cost up to £5000.

Also i can recommend the company that did mine cost me £1500 www.webwytchery.co.uk/ You can mention my name if you like. My website is www.lightique.com

[UKBob]

Lonewolf said:

Check out with your local chamber of commerce there are grants available for Websites for business's normally for 50% of the cost up to £5000. Also i can recommend the company that did mine cost me £1500 www.webwytchery.co.uk/ You can mention my name if you like. My website is www.lightique.com

Your local enterprise agency may also be able to put some money towards the site.

[futie]

Hi all, Out of interest, what price would you chaps put on a site like this ? Including everything - database/design/credit card stuff/etc.

[jacobyte]

Without knowing the specification and the extent of the content management, it's hard to put a price on any website. Can you add extra categories, can you add new information pages, change the order of navigation, track 3rd party affiliate links, etc?

It's a simple, basic layout with minimal design input.
No real effort put in on SEO, and poor accessibility.
Some usability inconsistencies.
Good product searching and nice'n'easy to buy something quickly.

As it's .NET, I'd say anywhere between 4K and 8K. Not a fantastic site, but certainly a good basic start. Of course it depends on your budget and priorities, but ideally you would want the site to be more complete and therefore pay perhaps 15-20K to ensure it really is a great site.

[futie]

Thanks for the info, jacobyte - v. interesting.

[Igg]

Don't know if this will help, but :-

Our new website (www.deliciousknickers.co.uk) cost about £1000 including worldpay integration - it runs using Actinic ecommerce software, so the money was for the design and template creation. I think we could have got it for less, but we wanted it up and running in a very short time, so I guess we pushed the price up a bit in our hurry.

By way of comparison, the company website was recently redesigned (also based on Actinic) and cost around £6,000 (www.hannainst.co.uk), although some of the features which were included in that £6,000 are still not up and running yet!

Igg

[martin hunt]

For DVD popcorn I would pay about £299, as by the looks of it it is done using oscommerce.

[UncleDave]

martin hunt said:

For DVD popcorn I would pay about £299, as by the looks of it it is done using oscommerce.

Yes, I thought that, I think they have just based it around something.. and the design isn't excellent.. but about £3-500 is about right.

Dave.

[turbobloke]

futie said:

Hi all, Out of interest, what price would you chaps put on a site like this ? Including everything - database/design/credit card stuff/etc.

Was thinking of putting some (free) e-commerce software on one of the sites I operate, appropriate levels of encryption were included, but after re-checking with a Cardnet lady the legal and quasi-legal restrictions on payment methods and providers of collection services - and their charges - have spiralled in the last few years. Just checking you're more aware than I was, which isn't difficult

It's possible to get a perfectly decent and workable site for far less than £1500, but going higher suerly depends on whether the product / service / client base - and therefore ultimately cashflow - would benefit from something flash (no pun intended). TV consumer advice programme quote from last week "Remember a flash website is just a flash website". They went on to say that the flashiest websites can be masks for disreputable companies trying to look reputable. A form of electronic inverse snobbery can operate as well.

[v8maxwell]

hi all

still looking around for a web designer, came across www.webcreationuk.com.
the work they have done looks quite good for the price, some seem a bit slow though.

any thoughts

tom