Free Beer Tokens - Business Plan Opinion
Free Beer Tokens - Business Plan Opinion
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V8 EOL

Original Poster:

2,782 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2006
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In exchange for some beer tokens, I would like to ask someone for their frank and honest opinion on my business plan.

Myself and a colleague are about to embark on a new business venture. The business will deliver small scale technical systems and products to local government. Between us we have considerable experience, sales and technical expertise, great ideas and lots of energy and enthusiasm for what we are about to embark on. Trouble is, neither of us has every set up or ran our own business. Are we about to make a terrible mistake?

I would really appreciate some good honest upfront advice from a friendly pistonhead. I am not looking for investment, loans, orders or anything like that, just advise. If you have experience in investing in business’, reviewing and advising on business plans, are a prolific entrepreneur or think you can help in other ways then please drop me a like via my profile.

I am based near Cambourne, Cambridgeshire.

Any help appreciated.

Regards,
Richard.

Eric Mc

124,811 posts

288 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2006
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All I know is that working for government, whether local or central, often requires your business to have all sorts of ISO creditations and other approvals. These can be quite costly to attain and these costs would need to be included in any business plan budgets.

n3il123

2,775 posts

236 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2006
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I have to second that... I run a (very small) software/ Database company and have tried on numerous occasions to get into government or local councils directly only to be met with some variation of "oh you need to be registerd with scat" or some other buying body that only the likes of Logicacmg or Capita can get on

Sam_68

9,939 posts

268 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2006
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Thirded.

I used to work for Local Government. All sorts of bullsh1t accreditations needed.

Also, before you could be accepted as an 'approved contractor', you had to provide evidence in the form of past accounts that your company was financially stable. Of course, if you are a start-up company, you can't become financially stable until you get the work, but you can't get the work until you are financially stable...rolleyes

My advice? Stick to the private sector. They have much more money to spend, anyway!

flyingjase

3,094 posts

254 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2006
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Hi Richard

I do a lot of work with both local & central Government. There are ways of getting around the accreditations (especially within local gov) however no government body will buy a software application that doesn’t have significant support behind it - it's just too high risk for them. If you are a 2 man band, then it's highly unlikely that you will be able to sell business critical software to anyone in the Public Sector. That said, it depends on how hard you try and what perception you can create with the right decision makers. NOTHING IS IMPOSSIBLE!

As for more money in the private sector, well that may be true, however the public sector are awash with cash at the moment, and now is the best time to sell to them especially if your software has application within their modernisation agenda.

Northgate (a well known public sector IS provider) has just paid it’s first dividend for 6 years and has been buying up lots of smaller companies that provide to the public sector.

Good luck and I hope that you succeed in you venture

Jason

V8 EOL

Original Poster:

2,782 posts

245 months

Tuesday 22nd August 2006
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Thanks for the advice. I currently work for a large company selling to local government so am quite versed in ISO, 3 year accounts etc... Taking all of that in to account, we believe we have the right strategy to enable us to sell confidently in to this market and overcome those difficulties.

Eric Mc

124,811 posts

288 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2006
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Off you go then.

Best of luck.

Graham

16,378 posts

307 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2006
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we must just be lucky then. wer're a small consultancy firm and 75% of or business over the last 8 years is LG software support, strategy and a couple of products.. we're not acredited with anyone. It does help though if you can get people within the lg area to refer you to others.


Tendering can be a pain in the butt though, and a bit pointless I always think as any buyer worth there job will have decided which product /supplier they want and what a reasonable cost is before they go out to tender !!!!!

Just wait till yo get a HLF or NOF contract now they a laugh.

Really had my eyes open to how poor and wastefull and organisation HLF is they must waste 75% of the money..

Eric Mc

124,811 posts

288 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2006
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HLF/TOF - what that?

Graham

16,378 posts

307 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2006
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heritage lottery fund

New opportunities fund ( hlf funded)

Eric Mc

124,811 posts

288 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2006
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Thanks.

steviebee

14,860 posts

278 months

Wednesday 23rd August 2006
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The issue of tendering and resource is an important issue and one that I think you will have problems with.

We've just had to place a £30,000 performance bond against a 20 month contract despite big resources, impecible finances and a track record that leaves our competitors standing.

As said, there are ways round this.

Good luck.

V8 EOL

Original Poster:

2,782 posts

245 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Thanks for all the responses.

I took the plunge yesterday and have resigned.. byebye

I am completely sh*t scared, cant believe I am leaving behind a £55k+ job to set up on my own... hope I am doing the right thing!

benyeats

12,118 posts

253 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Not a lot to add but you are the first Cambourne resident I have seen on PH.

Can't help on business plans but know a load about product development and live up the road

Ben

Alex@POD

6,454 posts

238 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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Good luck to you, I am contemplating taking that same plunge myself too! It will be hard leaving the security and comfort of the standard monthly wage, but it should be good fun shouldn't it?

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

276 months

Tuesday 17th October 2006
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V8 EOL said:
Thanks for all the responses.

I took the plunge yesterday and have resigned.. byebye

I am completely sh*t scared, cant believe I am leaving behind a £55k+ job to set up on my own... hope I am doing the right thing!


Brave. Good luck.