snow absentees - advice required
snow absentees - advice required
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southendpier

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6,033 posts

253 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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So today all staff got in except one. That person did not even try and come in late - just took the day off, claiming rail is poor, as far as I can tell they made no effort to to get a bus/lift/taxi etc

From what I understand apart from some early disruption the rail services C2C in essex were fine.

What should I do? Make them take the day as holiday? Or put it as sick?


Edited by southendpier on Thursday 8th February 16:51

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

277 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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sack their lazy arse.

HotTotty

807 posts

231 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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It depends are they generally a poor performer who tends to take the piss, or do they normally arrive early work late and put in a good days work.

southendpier

Original Poster:

6,033 posts

253 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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HotTotty said:
It depends are they generally a poor performer who tends to take the piss, or do they normally arrive early work late and put in a good days work.


yep. Although when sick they always manage a friday or monday...hence they only get 5d ays paid sick a year and they have commission taken off for not turning up - but getting back to my question. Holiday or sick? I think Holiday - I give em 25 days afterall!!



Edited by southendpier on Thursday 8th February 17:15

apache

39,731 posts

308 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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I took today off because it was pretty hellish here......had to take it as a holiday

Mrs Trackside

9,299 posts

257 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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You can't just sack them, you'll have to give them a verbal warning as a first measure.

d1bble

3,396 posts

287 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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Another vote for Holiday.

Colesy21

590 posts

235 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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Every where I've worked, if you had a day off due to snow, it's a days holiday.

If you give it to them as a free day, it penalises everyone else who made the effort to come into work. Also, if they get a free day off, next time there's just a sprinkling of snow, everyone will claim they can't make it into the office to get a day off.

southendpier

Original Poster:

6,033 posts

253 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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OK Holiday it is - thanks to everyone who offered advice!

jamesuk28

2,176 posts

277 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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1 days holiday and sack them.

Mrs Trackside

9,299 posts

257 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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anonymous said:
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Thats what I thought too. BUT, according to our employment solicitor the law has completely changed on this.

Verbal, Written, Fired, is no more.......... Disciplinary meeting with representation that can conclude with any of the above is, so I am told the way to go now.

I'm in the middle of compiling our contracts which we only received from the solicitors a month ago. If what you've just said is correct, I've wasted three days of my life

M400 NBL

3,543 posts

236 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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As far as I am aware, the usual disciplinary precedure of verbal,written and final (not sure how many of each and over what period of time the minimum for each is) warnings are acceptable at this moment in time.

My company allows anyone receiving a warning to be accompanied by a witness, be it a colleague or member of the works forum (which is a company run trade union).

Of course, anyone that feels they've been treated unfairly can take their former employer to court.

In my opinion, the guy that failed to turn up should have to book a day off unless he/she was able to work from home.

rich 36

13,739 posts

290 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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Allright Dammit
I'll be in tomorrow


sheeshhh!

deva link

26,934 posts

269 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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Well, 'they' did say not to travel unless your journey was essential.

che6mw

2,560 posts

249 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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southendpier said:
So today all staff got in except one. That person did not even try and come in late - just took the day off, claiming rail is poor, as far as I can tell they made no effort to to get a bus/lift/taxi etc

From what I understand apart from some early disruption the rail services C2C in essex were fine.

What should I do? Make them take the day as holiday? Or put it as sick?


Personnally I think you need to dig a touch more with them before deciding. As you say "as far as you know" .... you need to know for sure.

They MAY live in a very remote part of Essex. The trains might be running fine in that area but perhaps they live 10 miles from the nearest station down roads which they couldn't travel down.

Secondly a lot of schools shut - perhaps they had to stay home to look after children?

These are questions you maybe already know the answers to. But I think you need to know for sure. And even if the answers show the employee up in a good light (i.e. they genuinely couldn't have made it in) I think one thing that can come from this is they ought to communicate with you better the exact situation about whether they are coming in or not. That ought to be a standard procedure they all follow - phoning you by a set time to let you know.

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

236 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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Well I spent 2 hours driving 5 miles to get on the M40 and was stuck in traffic with the road closed. I turned round and went home to dial in to the conference call from home. The call had been cancelled so as I didnt have any other commitments I took the day off as holiday.

deva link

26,934 posts

269 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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CaptainSlow said:
I turned round and went home to dial in to the conference call from home. The call had been cancelled so as I didnt have any other commitments I took the day off as holiday.

Phew - you missed out on another hectic day in the office then?

CaptainSlow

13,179 posts

236 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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deva link said:
CaptainSlow said:
I turned round and went home to dial in to the conference call from home. The call had been cancelled so as I didnt have any other commitments I took the day off as holiday.

Phew - you missed out on another hectic day in the office then?


tell me about it. those numbers can wait 'til tomorrow to be entered into the spreadsheet.

slinky

15,704 posts

273 months

Thursday 8th February 2007
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2 options for my crew, day's unpaid leave or days holiday.. although the person that was less than 3 miles away, in a built up area was taking the piss (fortunately she works for my wing man not me!)..

slinky

bga

8,134 posts

275 months

Friday 9th February 2007
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Make them take it as holiday unless they can demonstrate that they did a full days work at home.