Gardens & Paddocks usage
Gardens & Paddocks usage
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flyingjase

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3,095 posts

261 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Does anyone know the difference in how garden and paddocks are looked at by the powers at be?

I'm about to buy a house and have seen a few places with say 1/2 acre garden and an additional 2 acres in paddocks. I appreciate that from a planning perspective that these would be completely different, but would there be anything to stop me taking the fences to the paddocks down and turning them into 'garden'?


Sam_68

9,939 posts

275 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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flyingjase said:
but would there be anything to stop me taking the fences to the paddocks down and turning them into 'garden'?
Not so long as you don't mind the horses eating your flowerbeds and crapping on your patio. wink

Busamav

2,954 posts

238 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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you would not be able to create flower beds or cut the grass to a lawn .

The siting of garden sheds etc for the benefit of the dwelling would not be acceptable, nor would the siting of childrens play equipment .

If you remove the fence ,It is advisable that you create a distinguishable "boundary" seperating the 2 areas , maybe a flower bed , or keep the grass long at the boundary .

Envious neighbours are normally your biggest enemy in these situations

flyingjase

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261 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Thanks Robert - I assume that you can cut the grass though, just not to short?

I'm sure there is a law that after using land for 12 years in a certain way with no copliants, you can permanently convert it to that use.

Apart from the neighbours complaining, it is highly unlikely that anyone would find out anyway.

superlightr

12,920 posts

293 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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flyingjase said:
Apart from the neighbours complaining, it is highly unlikely that anyone would find out anyway.
I think you underestimate the power, resourses and detemination our little Jedi Councils have. To say that they live, breath and feel the force would be an understatement.

When they feel a distrubance in the force - even with their blast visor down, they will come and seek you out.

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Sam_68

9,939 posts

275 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Serious answer - to expand on Busamav's advice - is that it would represent a 'Change of Use' under Planning legislation.

Because (unless the property is listed or in a conservation area) allowing it to gain established use of the land as garden would also acrue 'Permitted Development Rights' (ie. you can build sheds and outbuildings over half of it), Planning Departments are usually quite keen to stamp down on this sort of 'abuse' if they become aware of it - to the extent that they might take enforcement action simply because of the lack of a stock-proof boundary between the two areas of land, on the grounds that lack of secure enclosure for horses is enough in itself to indicate a change of use.

Imran-vx

11,838 posts

265 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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We have just had a chap locally who bought waste land from the council at the back of his house and who landscaped it, nearly end up in prison for it.

Luckily in the floods it washed his new garden away just in time because he was dragging his feet over returning it to waste land and the council were prosecuting him for the umpteenth time.

SIMON67

346 posts

288 months

Monday 13th August 2007
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Any idea if a moveable chicken shed and electric chicken fencing are OK in pasture without pp? This is also in a conservation area and AONB. Also have a vegetable plot.

Must admit to mown "garden" area, bench and kids play equipmet. Neighbour has turned similar pasture into immaculate landscaped garden with ornamental pond! I suppose that it's a grey area between formal garden and a "natural" area with a few enhancements

Cheers

Simon

flyingjase

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3,095 posts

261 months

Tuesday 14th August 2007
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Thanks for the help guys

Jason